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Modern Bibles are the Result of Many Edits:
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| Jennifer Green
Posted on 05/06/2006 7:04:47 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: sine_nomine
The Bible is the most precise ancient book with the earliest manuscripts of all. Exactly.
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posted on
05/06/2006 7:55:26 AM PDT
by
Skooz
(Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
To: xzins; Corin Stormhands; Buggman; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan
ping of the ping list of which we dare not speaketh, lest we say.....neeet
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posted on
05/06/2006 7:55:29 AM PDT
by
Revelation 911
(God is love, Love endures forever, Love God, Love your neighbor,)
To: canuck_conservative
The best scholarship places the Gospels as being completed prior to the destruction of Jerusalem in 66 AD.
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posted on
05/06/2006 7:56:42 AM PDT
by
Skooz
(Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
To: canuck_conservative
Depends on whether you believe in the supernatural. The scripture makes its own claim that revelation was superintended by the Holy Spirit. If you don't want to believe that, its your choice.
Yes, it is true that various portions of scripture have been questioned by biblical scholars. The good ones make note of it and let the reader decide. With few exceptions, those passages in question have little to do with key matters of faith and practice.
To: canuck_conservative
The main post is very misleading. Fan anyone interested in the manuscripts (papyri, unicals, and lectionaries) which are used to produce a Greek (really Koine which means common) New Testament from which the English translation is made should buy and peruse this book.
The Greek New Testament. Fourth Revised Edition, edited by Aland, et al. 1998 in cooperation with the Institute for New Testament Textual Research. Munster/Westphalia , Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft (United Bible Societies)
ISBN 3 438 05113 3 in leather with a Greek dictionary. This will get you a recent text of the New Testament that you can check any translation against.
You also need one other book to see why any contested word or phrase was included or omitted from this edition of the Greek New Testament.
The book is
A Textual Commentary of the Greek New Testament, by Metzger, B.M., 1971 published by the United Bible Society (this goes with the third edition of the Greek New Testament referenced above).
ISBN 3 438 06010 8
Both these books are available used to save you some money.
There are many hours of study in each of these books as you compare what they say vice what the NIV and other translations tell you is in the Greek.
Don't believe what you read unless you can verify it. Particularly in the religious area.
To: kstewskis
Even village scribes could barely comprehend what they were writing.Sounds like the modern press corps...
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posted on
05/06/2006 7:58:27 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Hillary!™ would have been a big astronaut. Say that slowly)
To: canuck_conservative
the earliest New Testament Gospel was written about 100 years after his death Much was written by eye-witnesses or people who personally knew and talked to eye-witnesses and were largely anecdotal. Some of the later writings were more systematically structured and developed, but largely followed the eye-witness accounts.
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posted on
05/06/2006 7:59:14 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Off touch and out of base)
To: Just mythoughts
Yes, we attach the word Easter to the Day of Resurrection. Common English words do not prove some sinister change has happened. When we use our Osterizer in the kitchen (the name we always used for a blender for decades) we never bow down to pagan fertility gods.
I am going to write The Free Republic Code, in which I prove that the FR writers do not mean what they say, that they really have a hidden code (known only to me) where they reveal their true thoughts.
Reagan was the last known leader with this secret knowledge. He passed it on to me. That's why the French secret police and the Girl Scouts are trying to kill me. They know I know. There is a rumor that I possess a thumb drive passed down from Aristophanes to Luther to Reagan and finally to me where all the wisdom of the ancient past is revealed.
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posted on
05/06/2006 7:59:49 AM PDT
by
sine_nomine
(No more RINO presidents. We need another Reagan.)
To: B Knotts
Let me amend that. There is certainly some possibility that Matthew was written prior to A.D. 60. I just was trying to focus on the point that there is no serious belief that it was written "100 years" after the Resurrection.
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posted on
05/06/2006 8:01:25 AM PDT
by
B Knotts
To: Citizen Tom Paine
That is tough slogging. Some pages have more notes of this or that manuscript than of text.
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posted on
05/06/2006 8:01:30 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Off touch and out of base)
To: canuck_conservative
If anyone needs a bible translator, a free help source is available. Check with your Holy Spirit.
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posted on
05/06/2006 8:01:32 AM PDT
by
Drango
(No electrons were harmed in this posting. Several however, were inconvenienced.)
To: Paraclete
Oh now who told you it makes no difference, if the original words are corrupted it makes a world of difference. Sadly modern man does seem to put self glory first and not the teaching of what was originally written.
We this day have the benefit of reading the parables given to the masses and what Christ told privately they meant, and why the masses were given only parables, most modern man cannot tell the masses what the parables actually mean from Christ's own mouth.
Aside from that there are a few places that give a permanent sentence upon those who add and take away from the WORD!
To: FormerLib
I held my ribs, aching with laughter.
There are cases to be made in religion. This one is not well argued. It reads like a sophomoric rant after four beers at Hooters.
I do not believe the facts will convert anyone. However, the facts do matter. We can argue facts. When the data is invented with a claim on scholarship, my response is mirth.
The Gospel Promises convert.
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posted on
05/06/2006 8:03:51 AM PDT
by
sine_nomine
(No more RINO presidents. We need another Reagan.)
To: GiovannaNicoletta
I said to one of the wobblies, "God sent His Son, born of a Virgin, who died on the cross for the sins of the world, and rose from the dead, then entrusted this message to some dunces who could not get it down right?"
One person objected, "There are 100 ways to interpret a vese of the Bible." I said, "Correct. One right way and 99 wrong ways."
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posted on
05/06/2006 8:06:35 AM PDT
by
sine_nomine
(No more RINO presidents. We need another Reagan.)
To: GiovannaNicoletta
Isn't it just the strangest thing that we're being told that the Holy Scriptures, which God said was inspired by Him and written by holy men of God as they were guided by the Holy Spirit, are fill of mistakes and lies and we're now finding out that the true Scriptures bear an amazing resemblence to leftist, Godless, ideology?The Devil has never given up nor will he until he is cast into the lake of fire where the beast and the false prophet had also been thrown!
And the constant false teachings continue unabated as described in 2nd Peter 3:15-16 ...."there are certain passages in them hard to understand...the ignorant and the unstable distort them, just as they do the rest of the scripture to their own ruin".
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posted on
05/06/2006 8:07:46 AM PDT
by
VOYAGER
To: sine_nomine
Really, you think Christ approves of a church claiming His name attaching a pagan orgy to His flesh transforming as His 'soul' never died and need not be resurrected.
Ever read about Gideon and cutting down that grove for orgy worship???
To: canuck_conservative
"For one thing, why would Paul say women should only speak with their heads covered in 11:2-16 of 1 Corinthians, only to say elsewhere they may not speak at all?"
For that matter, there's no such thing as male or female in Christ Jesus: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. " - Galatians 3:28
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posted on
05/06/2006 8:09:41 AM PDT
by
RoadTest
(The wicked love darkness; but God's people love the Light!)
To: GiovannaNicoletta
The 'Holy Scripture' is filllllled from Genesis to Revelation of busy little fingers messing with the WORD and it was foretold that would be the case.
We are told to study to show ourselves approved...hmmmmmm.
To: canuck_conservative
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posted on
05/06/2006 8:11:20 AM PDT
by
NeonKnight
(We don't believe you, you need more people.)
To: canuck_conservative
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posted on
05/06/2006 8:12:12 AM PDT
by
Raycpa
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