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To: BellStar
Don't Mess With the Text!

So we should all learn Hebrew, Aramaic and ancient Greek? Many fundamentalists consider only the King James Version the only true Word of God – and it is actually a rather poor translation.
7 posted on 01/28/2005 3:57:24 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

You are completely wrong about the King James being a bad translation. In fact, it and the New American Standard version have over a 90% accuracy in a word for word translation from the oldest manuscripts extent. Other translations such as the New International Vesion and Phillips have around a 75 - 80% accuracy.


9 posted on 01/28/2005 4:06:29 AM PST by Jemian (When two people go into an abortion clinic, only one gets out alive. Maybe.)
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To: R. Scott
So we should all learn Hebrew, Aramaic and ancient Greek?

That's not what was implied. Simply that Zondervan shouldn't take liberties with the translation FROM those languages, especially to change the meanings to be more palatable to the gender-sensitivity police.
10 posted on 01/28/2005 4:11:48 AM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: R. Scott

Don't Mess With the Text!
Translation: he can never be made to be she any more than a translation that would call a cow a goat!


18 posted on 01/28/2005 4:22:51 AM PST by BellStar (Obesity is the outward proof you are still not clean and sober!)
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To: R. Scott
A rather poor translation of questionable manuscripts, at that. And one that has been updated and changed many times over the years. I'd tell KJV-onlyists to put that in their pipe and smoke it, but King James was a well-known enemy of smoking, so I'm sure they don't have pipes.
20 posted on 01/28/2005 4:27:18 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: R. Scott

– and it is actually a rather poor translation.

Actually it is the very best translation. And it translates from the most conservative manuscript family.

As a pastor, the more I have checked the Authorized Version against definitive language tools like Vincent's and Keil and Delitsch, the better it has fared as opposed to so-called, "modern translations."

To varying degrees, modern versions corrupt the word of God.

And I've noticed over the years that most people who use modern versions either don't memorize Scripture or quit memorizing Scripture---not all, but most.


39 posted on 01/28/2005 5:11:46 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Not Known for Political Correctness)
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To: R. Scott

In what way is it a poor translation?


42 posted on 01/28/2005 5:14:49 AM PST by far sider
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To: R. Scott
#7..is actually a poor translation

That's your opinion...

..Many of us grew up reading, learning and memorizing the King James Version....which is beautifully poetic...

..I now own and read the NIV....

...and agree with SBC and ...Presbyterian Church, PCA..(of which I'm a member) that this Today's NIV..is out of line...very out of line.

53 posted on 01/28/2005 5:28:38 AM PST by Guenevere (Sola Gratia)
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To: R. Scott

The King James Bible is, by far, the best translation you can get.

http://av1611.com/kjbp/index.html

http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/fbns-index/versfbns.htm

http://www.mag-net.com/~maranath/bible.htm


63 posted on 01/28/2005 5:47:07 AM PST by protest1
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To: R. Scott

It is not a poor translation of the Received text and the Masoretic text.

But it is sure not Hort/Wescott!


71 posted on 01/28/2005 5:55:18 AM PST by RaceBannon (((awaiting new tag line)))
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To: R. Scott
"...and it is actually a rather poor translation."

Maybe more effort by the reader is required to understand? Admittedly, there are parts we don't understand - yet. As we develop and mature spiritually, so does our understanding/perspective on scriptural meaning and its application to life. No one can fully understand the scripture in a simple, singular context, as it truly is the Living Word.

Regards,
Az

96 posted on 01/28/2005 6:39:10 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: R. Scott

Actually, learning Hebrew, and Greek isn't a bad idea. It goes along with Latin for a truly Classical eduation, which this nation is, for the most part, lacking.


128 posted on 01/28/2005 7:55:12 AM PST by msdrby (Freedom, by its nature, must be chosen and defended by its citizens.)
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