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Russian Orthodox Church Cuts Ties with US Episcopals
Voice of America ^ | 17 November 2003 | staff writers

Posted on 11/17/2003 3:11:05 PM PST by ahadams2

Russian Orthodox Church Cuts Ties with US Episcopals

VOA News

17 Nov 2003, 20:54 UTC

The Russian Orthodox Church has cut ties with the Episcopal Church in the United States over its ordination of an openly gay bishop.

In a statement issued Monday in Moscow, the Russian Orthodox Church said the ordination of a homosexual bishop makes any communications with the bishop or those who elected him impossible. The Russian Church went on to describe homosexuality as a grave sin, adding it could not show any sign of acceptance of a position that it considers un-Christian and blasphemous.

The U.S. Episcopal Church consecrated Gene Robinson as bishop two weeks ago. Bishop Robinson is openly gay.

The Russian Orthodox Church has been taking part in ecumenical meetings with other Christian Churches for several decades.


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Current Events; Ecumenism; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: anglican; apostasy; bishop; church; communion; conservative; ecusa; episcopal; heresy; homosexual; response; rus; russianorthodox

1 posted on 11/17/2003 3:11:06 PM PST by ahadams2
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To: ahadams2; Eala; Grampa Dave; AnAmericanMother; sweetliberty; N. Theknow; Ray'sBeth; ...
Ping.
2 posted on 11/17/2003 3:11:42 PM PST by ahadams2 (Anglican Freeper Resource Page: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican/)
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To: ahadams2
http://www.russian-orthodox-church.org.ru/ne311176.htm

"THE CHURCH CANNOT APPROVE OF THE PERVERSION OF HUMAN NATURE CREATED BY THE CREATOR HIMSELF"
The Statement of the Department for External Church Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate

In connection with the episcopal consecration of an openly gay priest V.Gene Robinson, the Department for External Church Relations is empowered to make a special statement.

The Church has always regarded homosexual contacts as a grave sin.

There are clear and indisputable testimonies in the Bible about the inadmissibility of such relations between people for Christians: 'You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination', 'If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed abomination; they shall be put to death (Lev 18:22; 20:13). St.Paul definitely said about 'dishonourable passions' of people who 'exchanged the truth about God for a lie': 'their women exchanged natural relations to unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another'. The apostle pointed at the inevitable 'God's decree' not only about those whose conduct was improper and who 'were filled with all manner of wickedness, …covetousness' but also about those who 'approve' (cf. Rom 18-32).

Such people separate themselves from the unity of faith. According to the Apostle, they will not inherit the eternal life: 'Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters… nor homosexuals… will inherit the kingdom of God' (cf. 1 Cor 6:9-10).

The advocates of the ordination of homosexuals maintain that there is no direct condemnation of these kind of sexual contacts in the Holy Scriptures and that the above-cited texts from the Bible should not be understood literally, as, according to them, only the fundamentalists and conservatives do. Yet in this case any Biblical text can be interpreted in any sense, depending on the instant desires of a particular group of people.

The Biblical texts about the condemnation of homosexualism are clear and unequivocal. They have formed Christian morals, educated many generations of people and created modern culture. The negation of the direct meaning of the words of St.Paul contradicts the centuries long Christian tradition of the comprehension of these texts and is contrary to common sense.

Homosexualism is a sin, which separates man from God. At the same time the Church does not deny help to those unfortunate people, who are possessed with this ailment. God is love, and Christians should pray for all sinners and wish them salvation. However, the Church cannot approve of the perversion of human nature created by the Creator Himself. The Church cannot bless the distortion of the image of God, Who is the most profound foundation of human dignity. The Church teaches about the original differences of both sexes, about chastity and predestination of man for sanctity. The Church safeguards the tradition of Christian marriage between man and wife blessed by God Himself at Cana in Galilee. The Church will cease witnessing about holiness, purity and the truth of God, if she gives up the teaching revealed to her by God.

We see a great danger to a modern man in the processes, which are going on in the Episcopal Church in the USA and in some other Christian communities of Western world. People are becoming accustomed to the notion that homosexualism is nor a deviation, neither a perversion, but just a kind of 'love', which even the Church blesses. For instance, the leadership of the Episcopalian Church in the USA at the General Convention in Minnesota last summer approved of a possibility of blessing the unisexual marriages. The document adopted by the Comvention gives the 'local communities' and parishes the right to elaborate the rituals for the blessing of unisexual couples.

The consequences are terrible, as even people with normal sexual orientation are joining in homosexualism.

Our faith is built upon the Word of God, which has preserved the immutable Truth of God. The liberal view on the attitude of the Church to homosexualism is the way to the destruction of the very foundations of the Church and to its likening to secular pubic institutes.

The Russian Orthodox Church has maintained good relations with the Episcopal Church in the USA for almost two hundred years. Our relations remained warm and friendly even in the period of the 'cold war', when Christians had mutual understanding and supported one another in the world divided into the confronting military blocks. The Episcopal Church in the USA supported Orthodox Christians in our country at the time of persecution for the faith in Christ. Particularly friendly relations between our two Churches have been established in the early 1990s, when a Joint Coordinating Committee for Cooperation between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Episcopal Church in the USA was set up. The Committee prepared and carried out three theological conversations, successfully implemented common social and educational projects and arranged visits to one another.

However, the 'consecration' of a gay priest has made any communications with him and with those who consecrated him impossible. We shall not be able to cooperate with these people not only in the theological dialogue, but also in the humanitarian and religious and pubic spheres. We have no right to allow even a particle of agreement with their position, which we consider to be profoundly antiChritian and blasphemous.

Because of this situation the Russian Orthodox Church is forced to suspend the work of the Joint Coordinating Committee and to freeze her contacts with the Episcopalian Church in the USA.

We want to maintain contacts and cooperation with those members of the Episcopal Church in the USA who clearly declared their loyalty to the moral teaching of the Holy Gospel and the Ancient Undivided Church.

We pray our God, God of love and reconciliation, to put sense into the members of the Episcopal Church in the USA and help them return to the way of the Truth, which is our Lord Jesus Christ (cf. Jn 14:6).
3 posted on 11/17/2003 3:47:52 PM PST by ahadams2 (Anglican Freeper Resource Page: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican/)
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To: ahadams2
Good for them!
4 posted on 11/17/2003 6:26:31 PM PST by FreeRep
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To: FreeRep
it is nice to see that at least some of the folks from the historical portions of the Church still have a clear fix on issues of right and wrong; and are not afraid to say so, isn't it?
5 posted on 11/17/2003 6:36:06 PM PST by ahadams2 (Anglican Freeper Resource Page: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican/)
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To: crazykatz; don-o; JosephW; lambo; MoJoWork_n; newberger; Petronski; The_Reader_David; Stavka2; ...
An Orthodox ping.
6 posted on 11/17/2003 7:22:45 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: ahadams2
Glad to hear this.
7 posted on 11/17/2003 9:00:02 PM PST by DreamWeaver
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To: ahadams2
I think they would be razing and burning an ice rink in New Hampshire, along with some churches :-). They don't mess around.
8 posted on 11/17/2003 9:12:17 PM PST by Aliska
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To: ahadams2
nothing like seeing a KGB agent and thief point out the sins of others, lol.
9 posted on 11/17/2003 9:17:41 PM PST by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
All men change...or you not familiar with Apostal Saul?
10 posted on 11/17/2003 9:42:39 PM PST by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: RussianConservative
he repented.
11 posted on 11/17/2003 10:04:38 PM PST by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
I judge by action.
12 posted on 11/18/2003 12:40:10 AM PST by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: OldCorps
Beside, all men of all position inform, they not have choice...that was way of system, of communism.
13 posted on 11/18/2003 12:40:52 AM PST by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: ahadams2
A Russian priest recently conducted a same sex marriage in a church somewhere in central Russia. When the bishop found out, he immediately defrocked the priest. He then had the church in which the ceremony took place bulldozed and the rubble burned.
14 posted on 11/18/2003 4:26:30 AM PST by bobjam
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To: ahadams2
Thanks for the pings so I can catch up on the week!
15 posted on 11/22/2003 9:54:17 AM PST by Eala (FR Traditional Anglican Directory: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: ahadams2
Finally an Orthodox Church standing up to this wickedness!

I hope the Greek Church follows.

16 posted on 11/22/2003 10:01:05 AM PST by eleni121
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