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William S. Lind: What Is To Be Done?
Free Congress Foundation ^ | 8/25/03 | William Lind

Posted on 09/02/2003 8:18:34 AM PDT by JohnGalt

William S. Lind: What Is To Be Done?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- August 25, 2003

A number of readers of this column have said, in effect, "You are critical of our current policies in Iraq. What would you do instead?" I addressed this in an earlier column, but there are a good number of new readers, so it is probably time to revisit what I said then and perhaps add a few points.

The most important thing we should do is set a date certain for leaving Iraq and make it soon. Given the time it will take to get all our troops and stuff out, we might move that to December 25. That way, it would be a Christmas present to our soldiers and to the people of Iraq as well.

Once we have set a date, there will be less reason for Iraqis to attack American soldiers. Those soldiers will be gone soon anyway; why not just wait for them to leave? Further, once it is known when we will leave, Iraqis' focus will shift to each other and the internal conflicts that will shape the future of Iraq.

Some people will say that we risk chaos by leaving; others will argue that the Shiites will take over and establish an Islamic republic, or that Saddam might come back. All those possibilities are real, plus more that we would not like. But our staying in Iraq does not stop them. At most, it may delay them some months or perhaps a couple years. How many American lives is mere delay worth?

Worse, the longer we remain in Iraq, the more unfortunate the final outcome is likely to be. As the constant friction generated by our presence radicalizes more and more Iraqis, the political center will lose strength and the extreme elements of every variety will gain strength. The battle for legitimacy will revolve increasingly around who can claim to have killed more Americans. And as the center loses strength, the ability of anyone to recreate a state in Mesopotamia will diminish.

Here we encounter the essence of the problem, and of the American failure: those in Washington who brought about this war sought to destroy a regime, but they ended up destroying the Iraqi state. In an era when the most powerful international fact of life is the decline of the state, recreating a state is very difficult. It is not surprising that American efforts to recreate a state in Iraq have thus far failed. Iraqi efforts may also fail, leaving the region in a permanent state of chaos similar to what we find in places like West Africa. Again, by staying longer in Iraq the U.S. does not diminish this possibility, it increases it.

That is my basic answer to the question of what is to be done: promise to have every American soldier out of Iraq by Christmas, and do it. Between now and then, our focus needs to be on keeping the troops who are still in Iraq alive and generally diminishing our role there. We should pull the troops out of cities wherever possible, garrisoning them where they will have little interaction with Iraqis. We should turn every function in Iraq over to any Iraqis who will take it, starting with the puppet Governing Council we set up. The Council will not survive after we are gone, but it can provide some useful cover as we get out. We should welcome the U.N., the Arab League, and anyone else who is willing to come into Iraq as we get out. Leaving someone else holding the bag is what is called skillful diplomacy.

Leaving Iraq will not be a defeat for America, because America never had any interests at stake in Iraq in the first place. There were no weapons of mass destruction, Saddam and Bin Laden hated each other's guts and the notion that Iraq constituted a threat to American security was pure invention. Genuine threats to American security may arise in a post-state Mesopotamia, but we have already created that monster and we will have to live with it. Folly has its consequences.

An American withdrawal from Iraq will be a defeat for the neocon clique that started the war in the first place. To that I say, "Hurrah!" The sooner the neocons are defeated and driven from power, the less the chance that American soldiers will be sent to die in more unnecessary and strategically counterproductive wars. In fact, to make the punishment fit the crime, we ought to round up every neocon in Washington and make them all "Special Representatives" to Iraq, with orders to get on the next plane to Baghdad and only come back on the last plane out. Then, we should forget to send that last plane.

William S. Lind is Director of the Center for Cultural Conservatism at the Free Congress Foundation. © 2003 William S. Lind. All opinions expressed in this article are the author's and do not necessarily reflect those of Military.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: christmas; iraq; neoconservatives; williamslind
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Glad to see the Free Congress Foundation advocate a sensible policy position of getting the troops home before Christmas. I doubt it will happen, but conservatives need to rally around some finite point to thwart the nation builders and the Vichy-cons among us who would have us build a 'welfare state Democrats could be proud of' in the Middle East.

From another thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971959/posts , I learned that there are a number of people on this board who believe its a sensible policy to keep troops in Iraq so as to provide terrorist targets for the 'enemy.'

That revolting position is not conservative, it is not patriotic, and in no way can that be called supporting the troops.

Declare victory and bring the boys home, GW.

1 posted on 09/02/2003 8:18:35 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: JohnGalt
you mean like we were supposed to do in Bosnia? IIRC we're still there years later. Nobody complains because a democrat put us there.
2 posted on 09/02/2003 8:21:09 AM PDT by camle (thanx fer asking)
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To: camle
An excellent comparison, indeed, that underscores the importance of supporting a 'bring the boys back home' policy. This would put Bush squarely opposite the D's running for President who have all indicated that they will spend more and more on rebuilding Iraq.
3 posted on 09/02/2003 8:25:42 AM PDT by JohnGalt (For Democracy, any man would give his only begotten son.)
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To: JohnGalt
What the hell are we doing, fighting a war or having a Christmas party? Never have I read of such a nutty idea coming from any conservative writer. Oh, I got it, it's a humor piece!

William Lind must be a pseudonym for Barbra Streisand.

4 posted on 09/02/2003 8:38:27 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: JohnGalt
For Libertarians selfishness is a credo and self-sacrifice is stupidity. And honor is just a word found in the dictionary. Using just pen and ink, they will fight to the death for just one thing -- the right to smoke pot and ingest dope whenever and wherever they want. They were the fencesitters in the Revolutionary War, the draft dogers in the Civil War, the pro-Debs coterie during WWI, the American Firsters in WWII, the American expats in Canada during Viet Nam, and now the 'bring the boys home before Christmas' whiners in the global war on terrorism. They are History's losers.
5 posted on 09/02/2003 8:39:48 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: JohnGalt
I couldn't agree more. The sooner we're out of Iraq, the better.
6 posted on 09/02/2003 8:39:57 AM PDT by caltrop
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To: JohnGalt
The question I have is what is happening to the $ from Iraq's oil revenues and is some or all of that going to help pay for the rebuilding effort?
7 posted on 09/02/2003 8:42:05 AM PDT by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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To: JohnGalt
Once we have set a date, there will be less reason for Iraqis to attack American soldiers. Those soldiers will be gone soon anyway; why not just wait for them to leave? Further, once it is known when we will leave, Iraqis' focus will shift to each other and the internal conflicts that will shape the future of Iraq.

Oooh! Has the author a familiar spirit? Is he a soothsayer? A prophet, perhaps?

How the hell does he know what the Iraquis' focus will be? Has he spoken with them? How can he speak definitively what will happen?

This opinion is ridiculous.


8 posted on 09/02/2003 8:45:12 AM PDT by rdb3 (They've read all the books but they can't find the answers...)
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To: gaspar
Does your definition of honor include putting 19-year old girls from West Viriginia on the frontline?

9 posted on 09/02/2003 8:49:25 AM PDT by JohnGalt (For Democracy, any man would give his only begotten son.)
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To: rdb3; Poohbah; Chancellor Palpatine
Seems to me the "wimp" crowd wants to leave a job half-done. I'm not down with that.
10 posted on 09/02/2003 8:54:17 AM PDT by hchutch (The National League needs to adopt the designated hitter rule.)
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To: gaspar
I was a Lieutenant in the paratroops in the Central Highlands of Vietnam and I feel this war was unjustified and unwinnable, a real fool's errand. When I say "we" shouldn't be there I mean it. I've been in combat in Vietnam and am subject to recall if we dig in our heels in Iraq and screw it up to the degree I suspect we might. If, like most of the neocons, you managed to avoid subjecting yourself to combat and have no intention of going yourself or sending any of your loved ones then maybe you should go easy on the nonsense.

Like cowards in battle, who are there but don't count, those who cheerlead others into war without being willing to subject themselves or their loved ones to the dangers involved shouldn't count either.

11 posted on 09/02/2003 8:58:37 AM PDT by caltrop
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To: JohnGalt; hchutch; rdb3; Chancellor Palpatine
Does your definition of honor include putting 19-year old girls from West Viriginia on the frontline?

Do you understand the concept of "volunteer?"

12 posted on 09/02/2003 8:59:58 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: caltrop
I was a Lieutenant in the paratroops in the Central Highlands of Vietnam and I feel this war was unjustified and unwinnable, a real fool's errand. When I say "we" shouldn't be there I mean it. I've been in combat in Vietnam and am subject to recall if we dig in our heels in Iraq and screw it up to the degree I suspect we might.

OK, we should make policy based on your personal fear of being recalled to active duty.

13 posted on 09/02/2003 9:02:23 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Poohbah

Does your definition of honor include putting 19-year old girls from West Virginia who volunteered on the frontlines?

How 'bout to serve as targets for terrorists?

14 posted on 09/02/2003 9:03:00 AM PDT by JohnGalt (For Democracy, any man would give his only begotten son.)
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To: caltrop
If, like most of the neocons, you managed to avoid subjecting yourself to combat and have no intention of going yourself or sending any of your loved ones then maybe you should go easy on the nonsense.

"[G]o easy on the nonsense?" Look who's talking!

Check it, how can anyone go to the military if they have not volunteered? There is no draft.

You are attempting to "punk" this poster based upon lies. And that's dishonorable, "sir."


15 posted on 09/02/2003 9:05:39 AM PDT by rdb3 (They've read all the books but they can't find the answers...)
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To: Poohbah
What do you expect from reactionaries except reactions?


16 posted on 09/02/2003 9:10:08 AM PDT by rdb3 (They've read all the books but they can't find the answers...)
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To: gaspar
You got that right ... that's right where "John Galt" is coming from. I always knicker when I see libertarian jackballs borrow a name from an Ayn Rand book. How friggin' lame.

Libertarianism. The religion of I, me, my and mine.
17 posted on 09/02/2003 9:10:53 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: JohnGalt
We are not there to help Iraq.

We are there as bait to draw out the Islamic radicals in Iran and Syria.

Once they are out in the open, we can kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.

There is no other choice..

And I am glad that Bush has not fallen for their ploy to provoke a strong American reaction (like nukes) which would draw in all one billion of their Muslim brethern.

Slow and steady, kill them one by one. It may take a hundred years to clean it out.


BUMP

18 posted on 09/02/2003 9:11:13 AM PDT by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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To: JohnGalt
Does your definition of honor include putting 19-year old girls from West Virginia who volunteered on the frontlines?

Yes. Believe it or not, people VOLUNTEER for the military, and it is spelled out in excruciating detail what the consequences of VOLUNTEERING for military service are when you enlist.

How 'bout to serve as targets for terrorists?

When I was in the Corps, we always said that "USMC" stood for "U Signed the Mother****ing Contract."

19 posted on 09/02/2003 9:13:04 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: caltrop
I was a Lieutenant in the paratroops in the Central Highlands of Vietnam and I feel this war was unjustified and unwinnable, a real fool's errand. ...............

Thanks for your opinion but there are many who have served in Vietnam who are in favor of our war on Iraq. Tommy Franks also has a biography of service. So do those under his command.
20 posted on 09/02/2003 9:13:55 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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