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Fashion Emergency: How to FixThe Downside of Low-Rise Pants
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ^ | Friday, July 25, 2003 | SUEIN L. HWANG

Posted on 07/25/2003 1:18:40 PM PDT by presidio9

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:49:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Los Angeles wardrobe stylist Jeanne Yang calls in a tailor to put in darts at the hip. Advertising executive Paula Mangin of San Francisco is choosy about the chairs she sits in and, when she stoops, she takes care to bend at the knees. Web publicist Karen Bard, also of San Francisco, leans on her boyfriend.


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1 posted on 07/25/2003 1:18:41 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Expose as much flesh as you can get away with to attract the boys. Its been around for quite awhile and not just with low rise jeans either.
2 posted on 07/25/2003 1:21:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: presidio9
I just keep thinking of Dan Ackroyd.....
3 posted on 07/25/2003 1:26:25 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: presidio9
Why is it women feel that they have to go along with whatever trend comes down the runway? Some guys go for the XXXXX-baggy jeans look, but they are in the minority (at least where I live).
4 posted on 07/25/2003 1:26:44 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: presidio9

5 posted on 07/25/2003 1:27:15 PM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: presidio9
This year's fashion phenomenon, T-shirt maker C&C California, is selling tank tops with 18 inches of fabric from the armhole to the bottom of the shirt, compared with just 11 inches for regular T-shirts. Says co-owner Claire Stansfield: "We filled that gap." The startup company has a waiting list for its cover-up tank top.

I'm no genius, but isn't this defeating the whole purpose? Why not just buy normal jeans?

6 posted on 07/25/2003 1:28:35 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Catspaw
"I see you've got an old Norge there..."
7 posted on 07/25/2003 1:28:48 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: finnman69
Now these are low.......


8 posted on 07/25/2003 1:29:20 PM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Paul Atreides
Some do, not all. I tried on a pair of those things just for giggles. Couldn't see what the fuss was about. But then I like my clothes loose and my skirts long. Why buy this stuff if you have to watch what you're doing every minute? Seems to me folks will remember what you accidently bared a lot longer than how good you may have looked.
9 posted on 07/25/2003 1:30:08 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Paul Atreides
Boy, have you tried finding normal jeans lately? Well, probably not for women :) It ain't easy.
10 posted on 07/25/2003 1:32:15 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: presidio9
And while that might be just the ticket for some, it's a problem in need of a solution to women with even a modicum of modesty.

Here's a wild solution to this terrible problem, wear something that doesn't cause the problem.

"It's just a way of life now," she says. "If you want to be fashionable, you've got to practice socially responsible bending."

Two sentences that should never go together.

11 posted on 07/25/2003 1:32:50 PM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: presidio9
If you aren't very careful, you end up showing too much.

You can't show too much unless you have too much.

So9

12 posted on 07/25/2003 1:34:31 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: presidio9


13 posted on 07/25/2003 1:35:17 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: mewzilla
I'm probably in the minority, but I don't think that those low-riders look attractive on women, no matter how hot the woman. They seem to make the butt and hips look bigger. I like the normal, but not baggy, jeans on women. They are more complimentary to the woman's figure. I also hate the big clunky shoes on women. Women don't look good in Herman Munster shoes.
14 posted on 07/25/2003 1:35:22 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: presidio9
As any woman who has purchased them can attest, they come with one little drawback: If you aren't very careful, you end up showing too much. And while that might be just the ticket for some, it's a problem in need of a solution to women with even a modicum of modesty.

Will I be flamed if I suggest that women who are modest wouldn't buy clothes which force them to be very careful lest they be exposed?

15 posted on 07/25/2003 1:36:20 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: mewzilla
I'm still trying to figure out the jeans that look as if they were dragged through a septic tank. I had acid washed jeans back in the 80s, but wearing nasty-looking jeans is not for me.
16 posted on 07/25/2003 1:37:04 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: goldstategop
When I was in college and grad school in the '60s, low-rise pants (known as hiphuggers) were quite in fashion. I don't remember it as a problem, and many of the girls weren't wearing any underwear anyway. The more obscene fashion was hot pants, which combinted a very low rise with a very short short. One girlfriend of mine had a pair that were somewhere around 5-6" total height, from the hem of the shorts to the top of the 'waist'band. Not nearly as revealing as her string bikini, but rather risque for anywhere respectable.
17 posted on 07/25/2003 1:37:42 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: finnman69
Now these are low.......

And laughably airbrushed. Where's her navel?!

18 posted on 07/25/2003 1:38:22 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: presidio9
When I was in school, you would have been teased for days if the tag on your underwear showed. Nowadays, guys who wear baggy jeans have to practically put their lower back on a bus seat to prevent pantsing themselves, and every other young woman displays the waistband of her panties if she bends down or kneels.

Here's what's more alarming IMHO -- teen girls with tattoos on the small of their backs barely above their cracks! Those aren't there for their own enjoyment, are they?

19 posted on 07/25/2003 1:38:30 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: presidio9
Dan Akroid, comedic genius.
20 posted on 07/25/2003 1:38:34 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Paul Atreides
On a well-proportioned woman they accentuate the figure, making the waist look smaller and the overall torso curvier. But they should not make these pants for anything above a size 4. The sight of a beer-gut hanging over lowriders is repellant.
21 posted on 07/25/2003 1:39:29 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: Paul Atreides
I'll agree with you there. I don't know who designs jeans these days. I read somewhere that 30 and 40-something women spend more money and are more brand loyal than younger women and girls, but who do they design and market for? Sigh. As for the shoe thing, don't go there :) I have huge feet. Have a rotten time finding footware (unless I wear guy's), and when I do find something that fits, sure enough it's got stacked heels. Why do manufacturers think that people with big feet (who are oftentimes tall) automatically want elevator shoes? Aaaaaargh!!!!
22 posted on 07/25/2003 1:39:43 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: L.N. Smithee
You should walk around on a college campus and see all of the thongs prominently sticking out of the top of low-riding pants.
23 posted on 07/25/2003 1:40:19 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Incorrigible
Very nice, but I like this one better:


24 posted on 07/25/2003 1:40:22 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Howlin; justshe; Southflanknorthpawsis; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Back in the day, when we called them 'hip-huggers' and wore them with halter or tube tops, it seems to me we worried more about our tops falling out than about our bottoms falling out?

Of course, I'm getting old, that was about 30 years ago, and I might not be remembering clearly....
25 posted on 07/25/2003 1:40:30 PM PDT by Amelia (It's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness)
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To: Timesink
And laughably airbrushed. Where's her navel?! As worn by Kim Catrall in an early dramatic role...
26 posted on 07/25/2003 1:40:37 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: CatoRenasci
I remember hiphuggers. But those were low-rise, not no-rise, which is a better term I think for the current fashion fad.
27 posted on 07/25/2003 1:41:11 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: presidio9
I hate these refrigerater-repairman jeans these women are wearing. Can't they come up with something better?
28 posted on 07/25/2003 1:43:26 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: CatoRenasci
When I was a kid, before dental-floss bikinis, it was fashionable for the young French and Swedish nannies who worked the summers in my area to wear their bikini bottoms low at the beach, so the top half of their butt cleavege showed. I don't remember any of the fathers complaining.
29 posted on 07/25/2003 1:44:23 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
I like my BDU's--plenty of pocket room so I can go out and not have to carry a purse. I can't stand jeans. The pockets (if they have them, are useless).
30 posted on 07/25/2003 1:45:26 PM PDT by two23
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To: presidio9
I don't find these things sexy in the least. I find them gross. There's nothing quite so sexy as that which requires a bit of imagination.

MM
31 posted on 07/25/2003 1:46:49 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: MississippiMan
Now, these look good...


32 posted on 07/25/2003 1:53:47 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Incorrigible; Constitution Day
I was about to issue an inspiring diatribe about the demise of American values and the coming Fall of Western Civilization.

After viewing the photos you've posted, I recant in advance!

33 posted on 07/25/2003 1:55:25 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: presidio9
As worn by Kim Catrall in an early dramatic role...

Kim Ca-TRAAAAAAL! Kim Ca-TRAAAAAAL!


34 posted on 07/25/2003 1:55:35 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: mewzilla
I remember some of the zippers being quite short, 3-4", and, based on some of the photos in old college yearbooks from around 1970, some of those jeans were as low as anything I've seen recently. Often, they were well below the hip bones.
35 posted on 07/25/2003 1:55:49 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: presidio9
Web publicist Karen Bard, also of San Francisco...

Translation: Unemployed.

36 posted on 07/25/2003 1:56:50 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
How to fix the down-side of low rise pants?

A match and some lighter fuild spring to mind.

37 posted on 07/25/2003 2:00:29 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (If you keep your pants zipped golddiggers can't sue/entrap/accuse. Funny how that works!)
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To: presidio9
Can low-rise get any lower? Can mid-riff tops get any higher? What's next, just leg warmers, a bolero jacket and a belt???

Maybe it's all just a ploy by the hair removal industry...

38 posted on 07/25/2003 2:00:39 PM PDT by fortunecookie (longtime lurker and new poster)
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To: finnman69
The bottom one is exposing a "plumber's crack". My 17 year old daughter is NOT allowed to wear this style. I have seen some girls at her HS wearing these.
39 posted on 07/25/2003 2:07:02 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Clone Ann Coulter, the woman sent by God)
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To: presidio9
Low cut pants are a great way to quickly weed out dumb sluts.

Quite the timesaver.
40 posted on 07/25/2003 2:09:27 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: CatoRenasci
You all forget the companion to low-rise pants in the 1970s--The body suit. This shirt had crotch snaps to keep it tucked in. It's the only way these pants would have gotten past the Jr. High dress code of the time.

Now, my son goes to school with girls with the same pants, but without the modesty of the long shirt to go with.
41 posted on 07/25/2003 2:11:27 PM PDT by jaybee
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To: L.N. Smithee
Here's what's more alarming IMHO -- teen girls with tattoos on the small of their backs barely above their cracks! Those aren't there for their own enjoyment, are they?

I'm old enough to remember when only Sailors had tattoos and only girls had pierced ears.

42 posted on 07/25/2003 2:12:03 PM PDT by AmusedBystander
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To: Paul Atreides
Bless you! A voice of reason and from a guy yet! I've stopped buying new pants due to being too grossed out by either the hip hugger look or WORSE, the flood pants look (or "high waters" as we used to call them). Neither are very attractive to the average woman's body! Women's fashion has pretty much sucked these last few years. I'm so desperate, I'm taking my older, threadbare slacks to a tailor and having them recreated in different color fabrics (which isn't cheap). I keep waiting for the early 80s look to return, as that's when women's styles were the best (see movies like Mr. Mom, 9-5 and American Gigilo to see what I mean).
43 posted on 07/25/2003 2:12:35 PM PDT by ILuvW
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To: Timesink
Where's her navel?!

She lost it in an awful piercing accident, you uncaring cad. :-)

44 posted on 07/25/2003 2:16:25 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Paranoia is when you realize that tin foil hats just focus the mind control beams.)
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To: ILuvW
I keep waiting for the early 80s look to return

I've been watching the old Bond movies on TNN and appreciating how beautiful the women are on those movies. Sure, some of the costumes are over the top (Barbara Carrera as Fatima Blush), but Maud Adams as Octopussy is breathtaking. I shake my head when I think that the latest Bond flick had as a femme fatale, Madonna. Ugh!


45 posted on 07/25/2003 2:18:38 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Amelia
we worried more about our tops falling out than about our bottoms falling out

I don't know, but I do remember sitting in the school cafeteria in 1972 and saying to whatever girl had her butt crack hanging out the back of her hiphuggers, "Excuse me, do you feel a draft?"

46 posted on 07/25/2003 2:21:09 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Dianna
My first thought was "Why is a "woman with even a modicum of modesty" buying these low-rise jeans in the first place?
47 posted on 07/25/2003 2:22:24 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: mountaineer
Did you ever see that outtake of The Price is Right, from the 70s, in which the contestant is so excited that she was called to "come on down" that she was jumping up and down and her tube top fell down?
48 posted on 07/25/2003 2:23:48 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: presidio9
The sight of a beer-gut hanging over lowriders is repellant.

Pity those of us who live in college towns. I've seen so darned many bloopy beer bellies hanging over the waistbands of low riding jeans, I'm downright traumatized.

49 posted on 07/25/2003 2:26:45 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Paul Atreides
yes, and I truly believe whoever invented the tube top should be shot.
50 posted on 07/25/2003 2:27:55 PM PDT by mountaineer
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