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The Fat of The Land
Conning Tower ^ | July 20, 2003 | Trentino

Posted on 07/21/2003 2:57:40 PM PDT by Davis

The Fat of the Land

In July 2002, after decades of dieting, Jerrold Nadler, (aka the Waddler, Jerry the Hut) US Representative from New York's 8th Congressional, weighed 338 pounds. Then, as now, he was 5 '4" tall.

In August 2002, Mr. Nadler underwent gastric surgery, a "sleeve job" that reduced his stomach to a small pouch. By mid-November 2002, he had lost 61 pounds. In the nine months following, he lost an additional 14 pounds. That's an average of 1.5 pounds per month. The likelihood is that he lost no weight at all for some months. He now weighs about 263 pounds and is facing further surgery to bypass several yards of his small intestine.

Yes, of course, Nadler isn't typical. Nevertheless, there are lessons to be learned. The first is to recognize that obesity occurs to individuals. We differ in our individual make up. We differ in our susceptibility to obesity. Yes, there has got to be a genetic component to obesity as there is to every other aspect of our individual selves from the whorls on our fingertips to the curls of our cerebral cortexes.

We learn, as well, from Nadler's case, that an airy wave of the hand and a murmured admonition to cut down the calories and do some exercise, is hardly the whole story. If it were, we would not be facing what is generally recognized as a national crisis of obesity, some 80 million of our citizens on diets as we grow fatter and fatter.

The usual suspects are trotted out. It's junk food, hamburgers, pizzas, candy bars, ice cream, soft drinks, whole milk, cheese. It's fats, empty sugar calories, too much fructose or a lack thereof, too much animal protein, too little complex carbohydrates, excessive portions. It's chemical additives, genetically engineered crops, Aspartame, TV, Hollywood, advertising, pesticides, herbicides, and Republicans. All of the above together with a couch potato existence.

In consequence whereof, the fat police are rounding up sniffer dogs and a posse of trial lawyers to harass McDonald's and Burger King, intent on setting us back on the straight and narrow, doing well--fees in the millions--by doing God's work and freeing us for personal responsibility for our lives of gluttony. The FDA has got in on the act, compiling a 260 page report of the hazards of trans fatty acids.

The trouble with this picture is that it's wrong. So says Sandy Szwarc, a contributor to Tech Central Station who has reviewed with a keen eye, a critical disposition, and an electronic bullshit detector the reams of nutrition data available. She has unearthed therein an unindicted conspirator, the hordes of reducing diets that achieve temporary weight loss at the expense of training our bodies to increased caloric efficiency such that we are thereafter condemned to a life of starvation diets--even the surgical reduction of our stomachs, the rerouting of our intestines. It's a powerful argument backed by considerable evidence. Go see for yourself.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: diet; fat; gastricbypass; jerroldnadler

1 posted on 07/21/2003 2:57:40 PM PDT by Davis
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To: Davis
A link to the article to which this writer refers can be found in this piece HERE
2 posted on 07/21/2003 3:00:10 PM PDT by Davis
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To: Davis
She has unearthed therein an unindicted conspirator, the hordes of reducing diets that achieve temporary weight loss at the expense of training our bodies to increased caloric efficiency such that we are thereafter condemned to a life of starvation diets--even the surgical reduction of our stomachs, the rerouting of our intestines. It's a powerful argument backed by considerable evidence. Go see for yourself.

OK, I've put on my flame retardant underware, and I'm ready to go... Anyone who says you have to "starve yourself" in order to lose weight needs to have their head examined... I am on the Atkins diet, and I eat 3 big meals a day, along with a number of snacks... I'm NEVER hungry, and even though I decided to say on a "modified" induction diet, where I limit my intake of carbs to less than 30 grams a day (often 10 or less!), I am losing weight at a very nice pace. No surgery, no starvation.

I started this diet about 10 weeks ago, and in that time, I've lost 38 pounds and 8" around my waist. I still have another 80 or 85 pounds to go, but it's been quite easy thus far. Once I've lost about another 15 or 20 pounds, I'm going to start an exercise program as well: Up to this point, all of the weight loss have been due to my diet. When I've only got about 40# left to lose, I'm going to start reintroducing some of the foods that I purposely avoid right now. And will slowly go back to a more "normal" diet, although I suspect that I will always limit carbs and sugars, because, quite frankly, I feel a lot better without eating them.

Mark

3 posted on 07/21/2003 5:39:12 PM PDT by MarkL (OK, I'm going to crawl back under my rock now!)
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To: MarkL
Oh... I've been asked to mention just what I had to eat today as an example of how I'm not starving...

Breakfast: 2 egg mcmuffins, one sausage mcmuffin w/ egg, sans cheese or muffins (3 eggs, 2 slices canadian bacon, 1 piece of sausage) Total Carbs: 2 grams or less, probably 0.

Mid morning snack: Atkins Breakfast Bar 2 net grams carbs

Lunch: 2 packages of Star Kissed "marinated" tuna, 1 garlic and herb, 1 lemon pepper. 4 slices Kraft aged swiss cheese. Total grams of carbs, 0

Mid afternoon snack: Atkins Advantage bad, 4 net grams of carbs.

Dinner: Roast beef and kettle fried turkey breast rollups in swiss cheese w/ mayo and horseradish. Romaine and Arrugala (sp?) salad w/ some tomato and blue cheese dressing. Mixed cauliflaur and brocolli in butter and cheese. Estimated net carbs, less than 10g

Total for today: approximately 18 grams

Oh, and I drink at least 3 liters of water a day, sometimes as much as 4.

Dinner for tomorrow night will be sauteed chicken breast with olive oil and garlic, in Alfredo Sauce! Yum!!!

Mark
4 posted on 07/21/2003 5:49:29 PM PDT by MarkL (OK, I'm going to crawl back under my rock now!)
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To: MarkL
Well I'm not officially on the Atkins diet but I did go "low-carb" on April 1. The result of which is that I have lost 57 pounds as of last Sunday. Now exercise is a major part of my plan too. I wake up at 5AM and walk at least three miles every day, 7 days a week. I also do a noontime walk of at least 3 miles. So I walk a minimum of six miles a day but normally I walk 7-10. On weekends, far more. This past weekend, I walked over 30 miles. 16.5 miles on Saturday and 14 miles yesterday. I did hikes in the woods of a state forest and I walked the entire length of the Minuteman trail from Lexington to Concord.

Anyway, here is my diet for today, typical of most days on this plan:

Breakfast - Three hard-boiled eggs. Three pieces of beef jerky. Propel Vitamin water.

Lunch - One tin King Oscar sardines, Mediterranean Style, packed in olive oil. Handful of Macadamia nuts.

Dinner - 16oz grilled steak. Grilled jalapenos and mushrooms drizzled in olive oil with chunks of Gouda cheese mixed in. Two glasses of California Cabernet.

Snack - Sunflower seeds (as the urge strikes)

I also take multivitamins and garlic pills.

I think waking up at 5AM every single day is very important. It gives me the discipline to get my walking in. At 5AM, there's not much to do but go out and take a walk! And once I've done my morning walk, it's even easier to do the noon walk.

Now I got in from a concert at 1AM this morning. I was still up four hours later. Which is why I probably won't be responding to any more posts tonight because I'm hitting the sack! Got to be up at 5AM tomorrow.

5 posted on 07/21/2003 6:01:55 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Back in boot camp! 243 (-57))
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To: Davis
How much longer do we have do endure this nonsens that someone can maintain a bodyweight of 260+ pounds without eating for nine months or whatever?

For all we know, these lardbuckets are mainlining milkshakes.

6 posted on 07/21/2003 6:11:43 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: nutmeg
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7 posted on 07/21/2003 6:49:01 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: Old Professer
I can'quite follow your argument. If you're talking about Nadler, you might note that he has no more than a quarter of his stomach left, a tiny pouch. He immediately lost 61 pounds. Why? Because he couldn't eat any more. But after this initial weight loss, his body was lighter, his caloric requirements were smaller, and even that tiny pouch of a stomach was enough to prevent him from losing more weight.

It's a sad story, even if it's Nadler, and while it's extreme, it typifies the experience of millions of fat people struggling to get along.
8 posted on 07/22/2003 5:07:05 AM PDT by hrhdave
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To: hrhdave
Maybe he should try letting that "tiny pouch of a stomach" get empty once in awhile.
9 posted on 07/22/2003 8:28:48 AM PDT by Old Professer
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I'm in my 40's eat like a hungry pig and don't gain any weight. Of course, I don't eat fries, potato chips or any junk. I even drink protein shakes all the time, or used to.

My kids joke that I am non-stop hungry, which is true. If I am breathing, I'm hungry. So I eat. Tons of fruit and vegetables. Half chickens, tuna, salmon, green tea, nuts...several big meals each day.

Of course, going to the gym each morning before work might help. So might the couple of miles I walk each day and the mile I run each morning. Then the weekend bike rides and kayaking...

What's a "TV"?

10 posted on 07/22/2003 8:38:18 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Old Professer
Geez, how the hell do you know what Nadler can eat. You simply assume he must be gorging himself, but there isn't the slightest evidence that he was stuffing his tiny pouch of a stomach when he lost the initial 61 pounds. Why isn't it possible for you to imagine that his reduced body became accustomed to using only the little bit of calories he now comsumes?

Point is, all diets including Atkins types, long on fat and protein, short on carbs, work--for a time. The general experience is that the weight lost is gained back pretty promptly--and not becuase the dieters suddenly start swilling chocloate shaeks.

It is all but impossible for "sleeve job" gastric surgery patients to gorge themselves. And you might also note, he's not gaining weight, he just isn't losing any more.
11 posted on 07/22/2003 8:58:07 AM PDT by hrhdave
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Even with a pouch as small as Nadler's he could easily eat a 40 ounce jar of peanut butter in a 16 hour waking day for a total of 6700 calories.

At his present weight, he could sustain all of it on 4, 40 ounce jars per week.

12 posted on 07/22/2003 9:56:11 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Old Professer
If you have Nadler's e-mail address, pal, send it to me. I will tell him to quit eating those 40 oz. jars of peanut butter.

But, scarffing down 2 1/2 lbs of peanut butter each day isn't his only problem. He is too short for his weight. At 6'7" he could carry 263 pounds easy. Got any suggestions?
13 posted on 07/22/2003 2:15:38 PM PDT by hrhdave
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