PBS, CNN not so artful as dodgers Execs can't spit out answers to critics

SF Chronicle ^ | 7/15/03 | Tim Goodman

[Drango]

Hollywood -- This is a town where everyone is No. 1 in something. Demographics of all kinds are invented here solely to protect executives from waking up to find they've been fired in Variety. It's almost comical how many cable channels or networks will distort arcane ratings information to make it look as if they're winning.

[Drango]

If PBS won't do it, who will?

A&E, Bravo, Discovery, Travel, Food and every other channel.

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[dirtboy]

The latter is probably the best at understanding what a certain segment of the cable news audience seems to want -- news with a slant

What a joke. The problem is, CNN has been selling slanted news for years. And now there is an alternative.

[Enterprise]

"Instead, he couldn't even say his competitor's name, choosing instead to imply that CNN was Rolex and Fox News was Timex."

I sent the morning crew on Fox an E-Mail to the effect that Fox could be better compared to a well crafted, reliable precision Swiss Watch, while CNN could be compared to a sun dial on a mostly cloudy day.

[cake_crumb]

If Fox News is biased and slanted, how the heck would the author describe CNN?

"CNN is still viewed as an entity attempting real journalism"?? By WHOM? Rabid leftist who actually believed the Clintonista Non-news Network's puffed-up propaganda for 8 years??

The public wants LESS slanted, more BALANCED JOURNALISM, so the public goes with FOX rather than CNN. The author sounds like an intellectually elitist idiot.

CNN ran a 20 mninute segment on the second presidential debate between Bush and Al which boiled down to the last line (paraphrased) "Even though Bush may appear to have won the debate, he actually lost" The author's commentary sounds exactly like the twisted reasoning CNN has driveled at the public for years: "Even though the public unbiased journalism, accuses CNN of rampant bias and refuses to watch, the public really sees CNN as dedicated to real journalism"

[Drango]

At that moment, a good portion of the room would have paid anything to have Roger Ailes from Fox News come in and beat the snot out of CNN, at least verbally, as he's wont to do.

I'd pledge money to Freerepublic, just to read about it and dream that it might happen...

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Yea, my awareness is elevated. I live in MN with a constant drivel of leftist thought pouring from the port side of the radio dial and the low numbered TV channels . All of this paid for out of my wallet, with no recourse or input aside from the OFF switch.

“If we don’t do it, who will?” is the arrogant response of people who need to be weaned from the Government teat and go out and find real jobs.

Let their kind of propaganda attempt to make in the commercial world. There are plenty of sponsors for stuff which is truly “good”.

I still like the idea of bolt-cutters and blowtorches wielded during a MN summer evening and the glory of a dismantled broadcast tower lying at my feet.

Ping me.

[ken5050]

CNN's real problem is that they're focused on the WRONG opposition...They're obsessed with Fox, but they'll never regain the #1 stop. They should be worried about MSNBC, which is refocusing itself at a type of Jr. Fox....soon, you'll see their ratings start to approach CNN's......

BTW..kindly add me to your ping list..

[Pietro]

"But CNN is still viewed as an entity attempting real journalism. Most journalists appreciate that."

Isn't this the network that supressed the truth about Saddam's Iraq for years???

CNN the NYT of cable. 'nuff said.

[syriacus]

But CNN is still viewed as an entity attempting real journalism.

Would describing CNN as an
"entity"

be the same as describing CNN as a
"ghost" of its former self?

[WorkingClassFilth]

When pigs object to an odor, the question of decay is beyond dispute.

Even though this intellectually flabby nitwit is unable to correctly diagnose the source or nature of the stench, the fact that things at PBS are so far beyond the pale of reality that they incur criticism from their own base indicates time has come to terminate the Left's subsidized mainstream propaganda organ.

When decisive action finally begins to unfold, it will be important that sanctimonious pigs, like the author, are excluded from the butchering process. Simply smile, take their statements, and throw them in the trash. In short, display the kind of smug arrogance that these spittle-flecked hams display toward middle-America each and every day with lines like this:

"CNN appeals to the journalist in most of us as the channel battles Fox News, which has done a wonderful job of convincing non-journalists that it is unbiased while fooling almost no one who actually gets a paycheck in this profession."

What profession would that be, Mr. Goodman? Rooters and grubbers of widow's coins? Wallowing swine in the shadow of Congressional protection? Esteemers of all things decayed and corrupt? Porcine princes at the public trough with snot-glazed snouts?

Too bad for you and those in your profession, Mr. Goodman.

The faint and far off sound you hear from fly-over-land is the same sound hogs have heard for centuries in the fall of the year when the air gets crisp. It's not the sound of bowing and scraping from all of us yokel non-journalists. That's the sound of knives and cleavers being ground nice and sharp.

[WorkingClassFilth]

PING!