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Pronunciation Help! (Vanity)
6/1/03 | ILBBACH

Posted on 06/01/2003 2:44:21 PM PDT by ILBBACH

I am giving a speech tomorrow and need to know how to pronounce "Czestochowa" as in, "The Shrine of the Czestochowa." The part of the speech is below. It's a great story that shows that the relationship between Poland and the US is indeed heartfelt:

Born in Poland in 1860, the legendary pianist, composer, and one-time President of Poland, toured the United States several times during his life. And as in World War I, Paderewski stayed the United States to wait out the war in Europe. After arriving in the US in December 1940 at the age of 80, he performed in concert and was greeted by thousands of adoring fans wherever he went. As the president of Poland’s Parliament-in-Exile Paderewski was highly active in Polish relief efforts and there was nothing he wanted more than to see his homeland free once again, however, it was not to be. He died in New York City on June 29, 1941.

Immediately, President Roosevelt ordered that Paderewski’s body be interred in Arlington National Cemetery “until Poland [was] free.” After laying in state at the Polish embassy in New York, he was placed in the vault under the mast of the USS Maine Monument in Arlington. He remained there until June 27, 1992. When he returned to Poland that day, he received the reverence of his countrymen in several days of ceremonies and processionals. Paderewski was finally laid to rest in the crypt of St. John’s Cathedral in Warsaw. Althoughs his body is laid to rest in his native Poland, his heart is encased in a bronze sculpture in the Shrine of the Czestochowa in the Polish-American community of Doylestown, Pennsylvania. It was at Paderewski's own request that his heart was to forever remain in the United States of America. God Bless our country. Thank You.



TOPICS: US: Pennsylvania; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: czestochowa; doylestown; music; paderewski; pennsylavania; piano; poland; pronunciation; worldwarii
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I don't know anyone of Polish descent, so I'm hoping the brilliant folks at FR can help!

Thanks!

1 posted on 06/01/2003 2:44:21 PM PDT by ILBBACH
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To: ILBBACH
just change "Czestochowa" to "Charlestown".

problem solved
2 posted on 06/01/2003 2:46:46 PM PDT by bigghurtt
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To: ILBBACH
cha' stuh HO' vah
3 posted on 06/01/2003 2:47:59 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv
Thank goodness you helped him. I can never remember this, even tho' I work three blocks from Our Lady of C. in Jersey City. Well you are helpful, freepers always are. And now I don't have to call any of my co-workers on Sunday!
4 posted on 06/01/2003 2:50:28 PM PDT by jocon307 (i just post without looking now!)
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To: AntiGuv
To be clear, with a little emphasis on that first syllable and the greatest emphasis on the third syllable.

chah' stuh HO' vah
5 posted on 06/01/2003 2:50:52 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: ILBBACH
I can't help you with Polish
But
I'll try to help by Bumping your thread
6 posted on 06/01/2003 2:51:33 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (http://www.ourgangnet.net)
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To: xsmommy; martin_fierro
Yinzes hunkies got any ideas?
7 posted on 06/01/2003 2:51:43 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: ILBBACH
try 'Ses jao' va'...remembering a old Army buddy named Preputnayewicz(sp?)..otherwise know as Putt-Putt.
8 posted on 06/01/2003 2:52:06 PM PDT by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: ILBBACH
Chest-Ta-Ho-va?
9 posted on 06/01/2003 2:53:20 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Soddom has left the bunker.)
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To: Khurkris
I cede to posts #3 & #5....Thanks.
10 posted on 06/01/2003 2:53:57 PM PDT by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: AntiGuv
chah' stuh HO' vahright on! You got Polish ancestors too?
11 posted on 06/01/2003 2:56:33 PM PDT by templar
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To: ILBBACH
I'd like to take this opportunity to say, Polish women are HOT.
12 posted on 06/01/2003 2:58:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: templar
Yep! On my mother's side. I also speak fluent Russian (roughly the same pronunciation).
13 posted on 06/01/2003 3:00:55 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: ILBBACH
Just emailed your link to one of the posters who is Polish and reads FR in Poland. His name is Matthew Paul hope he can help.
14 posted on 06/01/2003 3:01:10 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (C)
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To: 1rudeboy
I'd like to take this opportunity to say, Polish women are HOT.

Got that right. I'm married to one.

15 posted on 06/01/2003 3:03:27 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: ILBBACH
Well, depending on if you're from east or west Poland, the proper pronunciation is either "Shasta-Cola", or "That's-An-Ow-A".

I would recommend taking a 3x5 card with the name written on it.

16 posted on 06/01/2003 3:05:02 PM PDT by searchandrecovery
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To: 1rudeboy
"I'd like to take this opportunity to say, Polish women are HOT."

You have pictures to back up this claim???

You know the rules! ;-)

17 posted on 06/01/2003 3:06:16 PM PDT by Pablo64 ("But still I fear and still dare not laugh at the the Madman.")
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To: ILBBACH
My father thought Paderewski was the greatest. I believe he attended a concert in Los Angeles when he was a student at UCLA before WWII. He spoke of him admiringly when I was a child. Thank you for the great story. I did not know this anecdote.

And yes, living near Milwaukee, the pronunciation you were given by AntiGuv is what I hear around town, although I couldn't have figured it out phonetically like he did.

18 posted on 06/01/2003 3:07:42 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: ILBBACH
I am giving a speech tomorrow and need to know how to pronounce "Czestochowa"

It's pronounced "Throat-Warbler-Mangrove".

19 posted on 06/01/2003 3:10:12 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Pablo64
You asked for it.

This is MARIE SKLODOWSKA CURIE .
She was 'HOT'.

In case my first attempt to post a pic fails, here is a site.http://www.aip.org/history/curie/index2_19.jpg

20 posted on 06/01/2003 3:23:51 PM PDT by Vinnie
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