Boastings of a Junk emailer. 125 Million emails a day. 45 million of us in his data base.

Opt In Real Big ^ | May 22, 2003 | SpamMan

[BJungNan]

The following is from the website of a junk emailer.

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• Possesses over 45 million online consumers in its database;
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• Produces over 20 million page views per month on our clients’ websites; and,
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[BJungNan]

Upset by Junk Email? We bring it on ourselves - or at least those of us that respond to junk emails bring it on. This guy would not be boasting if he had no customers.

Don't under any circumstances respond to junk email. If you do, you have only yourself to blame for all junk email that you bring on yourself and the rest of us.

There was also an article on this guy by the WSJ which you can access Here

[martin_fierro]

Charges filed (and $16M civil judgement) against Buffalo, NY Spammer

Mailwasher

[goldstategop]

By spam, one means unsolicited commercial email the recipient didn't sign up or ask for. Its a pox on Internet business and the sleazy few ensure its difficult to next to impossible for honest people to make a living on the Internet.

[FairOpinion]

In my opinion, this is no different than telemarketers or junk "regular" mail.

I don't particularly like my mailbox full of junk e-mail, I have to work hard to make sure I don't accidentally delete legitimate mail, but I can delete the e-mails I don't want, just the way I can throw out the junk regular mail and screen my calls to avoid telemarketers.

The only ones I really am upset over are the junk faxers, who use my paper to fax me stuff I don't want and tie up my machine, when a legitimate fax maybe trying to get through.

[FairOpinion]

"the sleazy few ensure its difficult to next to impossible for honest people to make a living on the Internet. "

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True, but one person "trying to make an honest living" is another person's spam.

As I said in an earlier post, I don't like it, but I don't have a problem with Spam, and in e-mails, as in junk regular mail I can look at it or delete/throw it away on my time line.

[BJungNan]

The only ones I really am upset over are the junk faxers, who use my paper to fax me stuff I don't want and tie up my machine, when a legitimate fax maybe trying to get through.

If your fax was running constantly, spitting out hundreds of Junk faxes a day, you would be really upset. Your mistake is that you think junk mail is not costing you.

The free junk mail they send out costs innocent people billions and billions of dollars in lost time and direct cost.

If something is not done, the net will soon be as unusable as are two of my email address. You should care. You should care.

[mercy]

I keep wondering when they are going to realize that spam does not work. I never even see the stuff. My filter trashes it without my ever seeing it. It never makes it to my computer. Surely most puter users have a filter by now. Why are people dumping money into spam? Talk about a mystery?! Surely they have a complete list of all the porn junkies extant. Why send all this other crap out to a filter program to be dumped? It's so stupid!

[Humidston]

At least 80% of my email is Spam. I hate it and wouldn't click a link contained in a Spam message, if my life depended on it!

May I ask, do you guys recommend blocking or unsubscribing?

[honeygrl]

I get upset with them because if I don't check my msn account atleast every 2 days the spam puts me over the space limit and emails start getting sent back so I miss emails I actually needed. I checked it yesterday after not checking it for 2 days and I had over 200 emails. How many were from places I actually do business with (i pay bills online) or from places I actually asked to recieve email from? Less than 10.

[bonfire]

Neither works. They change their addy everyday. I tried both.....and lost.

[FairOpinion]

But aren't we getting into some First Amendment right issues?

They have the right to send it. I have the right to not read it, but don't have the right to stop them from sending it. Maybe they could have something like the recent do not call lists.

[BJungNan]

May I ask, do you guys recommend blocking or unsubscribing?

I recommend finding one of the vermin in public and pointing him out to everyone. Then run so you don't get caught in the line of fire.

Short of that, never hit the unsubscrbe link as this confirms you as an active email address.

[Positive]

"In my opinion, this is no different than telemarketers or junk "regular" mail.

I don't particularly like my mailbox full of junk e-mail, I have to work hard to make sure I don't accidentally delete legitimate mail, but I can delete the e-mails I don't want, just the way I can throw out the junk regular mail and screen my calls to avoid telemarketers.

The only ones I really am upset over are the junk faxers, who use my paper to fax me stuff I don't want and tie up my machine, when a legitimate fax maybe trying to get through."

I agree entirely with your view. I don't want to receive smut or porno or dozens of duplicate offers for the same thing. At the same time, I appreciate ingenious sales presentations and high quality, unique offers.

So I scan and evaluate. After a few days (using reading glasses) the real “spam” takes no more than a second to recognize.

On the other hand, I have received “advertising” email and have purchased and been satisfied with a number of purchases.

The real problem is the many, many poor suckers who have bought into (as in paid money) these scams that make them think that if they “invest” a few dollars, millions of men and/or women will want to have certain of their body parts enlarged, etc. etc. etc.

[BJungNan]

But aren't we getting into some First Amendment right issues?

Hey George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin...this what you had in mind for first amendment protections. Definately not!

[Humidston]

I've tried both as well. This stuff is driving me nuts! It reminds me of telemarketers, but at least I have the satisfaction of hanging up on them!

[bonfire]

I paid for that thingy that keeps the telemarketers from calling. THe only ones that get thru are the Republican Party and they are relentless!

[Humidston]

Republican Party - HA! We just moved so they haven't found us yet... But they HAVE sent two "Spams" LOL!

[Technogeeb]

As I said in an earlier post, I don't like it, but I don't have a problem with Spam

That's because you don't understand what the spammers really do. They are thieves; responsible for over $10 billion annual costs to the Internet's infrastructure every year. Some estimate that over 80% of all email traffic, and the associated bandwidth consumption and server resources, is due to spam. And since that price isn't being paid by the spammer (nearly all get their connectivity through theft of services), it is being paid by the ISPs, and ultimately their customers.

as in junk regular mail I can look at it or delete/throw it away on my time line.

Junk mail doesn't come postage due; spam does (and worse, with no ability to refuse to accept it). By tolerating the spammers, you are tolerating criminal activity.

[FairOpinion]

"(nearly all get their connectivity through theft of services)"

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THAT I do have a problem with, if they steal AOL screen names and passwords, as happened to a friend of mine. That is criminal.

I know there is a problem with Spam, it's just that if they send it legitimately (not from stolen e-mail addresses), I still think it's in the same category as "junk mail" and advertisement. The mailman delivers your junk mail as well, you receive it, whether you want to or not and you can delete the e-mail without opening it too.

[FairOpinion]

"The real problem is the many, many poor suckers who have bought into (as in paid money) these scams that make them think that if they “invest” a few dollars, millions of men and/or women will want to have certain of their body parts enlarged, etc. etc. etc. "
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But those are the same people who become suckers for telemarketers or regular junk mail. We can't protect people from themselves. I think people should be educated and told to be wary, and remember that "caveat emptor". I think people who market fraudulent things fall into a different category and they should be prosecuted criminally.

But legitimate businesses advertising on the internet via "spam" is no different than when they run a TV ad and you sit through the ad, before your program continues, or when you open up the newspaper you pay for and half of it is ads, or when you get junk regular mail.

Someone mentioned another legitimate problem, when junk e-mail fills up the mailbox, so regular e-mail can't get through, because the box is full. I think with people having so many e-mail addresses and screen names, just as you have do not call lists, you could request no junk mail to certain screen names ( or all of your screen names for those who really don't want anything).