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To: BJungNan
In my opinion, this is no different than telemarketers or junk "regular" mail.

I don't particularly like my mailbox full of junk e-mail, I have to work hard to make sure I don't accidentally delete legitimate mail, but I can delete the e-mails I don't want, just the way I can throw out the junk regular mail and screen my calls to avoid telemarketers.

The only ones I really am upset over are the junk faxers, who use my paper to fax me stuff I don't want and tie up my machine, when a legitimate fax maybe trying to get through.
4 posted on 05/22/2003 10:09:52 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
The only ones I really am upset over are the junk faxers, who use my paper to fax me stuff I don't want and tie up my machine, when a legitimate fax maybe trying to get through.

If your fax was running constantly, spitting out hundreds of Junk faxes a day, you would be really upset. Your mistake is that you think junk mail is not costing you.

The free junk mail they send out costs innocent people billions and billions of dollars in lost time and direct cost.

If something is not done, the net will soon be as unusable as are two of my email address. You should care. You should care.

6 posted on 05/22/2003 10:16:52 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: FairOpinion
I get upset with them because if I don't check my msn account atleast every 2 days the spam puts me over the space limit and emails start getting sent back so I miss emails I actually needed. I checked it yesterday after not checking it for 2 days and I had over 200 emails. How many were from places I actually do business with (i pay bills online) or from places I actually asked to recieve email from? Less than 10.
9 posted on 05/22/2003 10:22:27 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: FairOpinion
"In my opinion, this is no different than telemarketers or junk "regular" mail.

I don't particularly like my mailbox full of junk e-mail, I have to work hard to make sure I don't accidentally delete legitimate mail, but I can delete the e-mails I don't want, just the way I can throw out the junk regular mail and screen my calls to avoid telemarketers.

The only ones I really am upset over are the junk faxers, who use my paper to fax me stuff I don't want and tie up my machine, when a legitimate fax maybe trying to get through."

I agree entirely with your view. I don't want to receive smut or porno or dozens of duplicate offers for the same thing. At the same time, I appreciate ingenious sales presentations and high quality, unique offers.

So I scan and evaluate. After a few days (using reading glasses) the real “spam” takes no more than a second to recognize.

On the other hand, I have received “advertising” email and have purchased and been satisfied with a number of purchases.

The real problem is the many, many poor suckers who have bought into (as in paid money) these scams that make them think that if they “invest” a few dollars, millions of men and/or women will want to have certain of their body parts enlarged, etc. etc. etc.

13 posted on 05/22/2003 10:28:19 PM PDT by Positive
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To: FairOpinion
FAIROPINION WROTE: "but I can delete the e-mails I don't want, just the way I can throw out the junk regular mail and screen my calls to avoid telemarketers."

That may be okay with you, but when I received an email which asked how my mom was doing [she had just gotten word that her cancer numbers had dropped by HALF after beginning to use PolyMVA---http://www.polyMVAsurvivors.com and http://www.polyMVA.com]---I opened it, thinking it was a legitimate email. I also had some hacker hack into my computer when I "permitted" something which said my OWN IP address was trying to access something---the hacker had FAKED MY address!!!

EVER SINCE, I have had MAJOR computer problems, including not being able to turn on my OWN Norton Internet Security Pro software!!! EVEN NOW, I still have problems with being able to KEEP the Norton Internet Security Pro turned on with ME being the Administrator instead of the hacker!

I have WASTED WEEKS of time trying to KEEP control of my OWN software---all because somebody used a FALSE subject to DECEIVE me into opening their email and somebody else FALSELY made it look like my OWN computer's IP address was legitimately trying to do something.

I'd like to strip the skin off of their Viagra parts and then HANG those SOBs by what's left of their parts!!! I am SICK AND TIRED OF HACKERS and PORNO-PUSHERS!!!!!!!!!

26 posted on 05/22/2003 11:27:36 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: FairOpinion
It is different in that they're highjacking the internet and using it for their spam. It costs the ISP's money, which in turn gets passed on to you. In effect, it's the same as getting postage-due junk mail, without the option to refuse delivery.
30 posted on 05/22/2003 11:41:37 PM PDT by kms61
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To: FairOpinion
In my opinion, this is no different than telemarketers or junk "regular" mail.

Actually, the difference is vast. With regular junkmail that you receive via snail mail, the cost is entirely that of the sender. With spam, the cost is shifted to the recipient. You pay for your account for personal or business use, not to have it inundated with countless offers to...well, you name it.

As it stands, the latest estimates indicate that at least $4 of your monthly ISP bill alone goes toward combatting and cleaning up spam. Why should you have to pay to get rid of something you never asked for in the first place?

As for the run-of-the-mill arguments that being anti-spam is being anti-freedom of speech, that's just bunk. Free speech doesn't come postage due.

-Jay

33 posted on 05/22/2003 11:46:11 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (When the smoke cleared, the terrorist was over there...and over there...and over there...)
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To: FairOpinion
I AGREE!
44 posted on 05/23/2003 2:03:39 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker (same old problems, different day...)
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