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GET THE U.S. OUT OF THE U.N.
Fiedor Report On the News #306 ^ | 3-16-03 | Doug Fiedor

Posted on 03/15/2003 10:24:18 AM PST by forest

No matter what one thinks of the looming war with Iraq, most of us have to admit something good is developing out of the overall argument. The United Nations is demonstrating, conclusively, the same irrelevance the League of Nations did many years ago.

The United States foots a quarter of the bill for that U.N paper tiger, international debating society and what do the American people get in return? We get a derogation of our liberty through bogus agreements, the right to host hundreds of ill-behaved diplomats from third- world countries and a system that allows hundreds of communist and socialist political activists into our country to instigate problems we do not need.

The true irrelevance of the U.N. becomes quite clear when all those resolutions they promulgated on Iraq are considered. The U.N. has been passing resolutions concerning the blocking of trade relations and the disarming of Iraq for well over a decade. Yet, few are obeyed and none have ever really been enforced.

Now, when the United States demands that Iraq finally be disarmed, as the U.N. ordered many years ago, other U.N. members protest.

Kofi Annan, the U.N secretary-general (a position Bill Clinton covets) lamely attempted to explain the U.N.'s inaction to disarm Iraq last Tuesday in the Wall Street Journal:

"[T]he . . . most urgent aspect of that task is to ensure that Iraq no longer has such weapons. Why? Because Iraq has actually used them in the past, and because it has twice, under its present leadership, committed aggression against its neighbors -- against Iran in 1980, and against Kuwait in 1990. That is why the Security Council is determined to disarm Iraq of these weapons, and has passed successive resolutions since 1991 requiring Iraq to disarm."

Right. "The Security Council is determined to disarm Iraq of these weapons" and has been trying since 1991. Meanwhile, Iraq has rearmed and developed even new types of weapons. But, in eleven years, the U.N. has not done one thing, except talk, to stop Iraq.

Annan continues: "Let's remember that the crisis in Iraq does not exist in a vacuum. What happens there will have a profound impact on other issues of great importance. The broader our consensus on how to deal with Iraq, the better the chance that we can come together again and deal effectively with other burning conflicts in the world, starting with the one between Israelis and Palestinians. We all know that only a just resolution of that conflict can bring any real hope of lasting stability in the region."

Is there anyone in the world who still believes the U.N. could do anything about North Korea or the Israeli- Palestinian problems? Fat chance! That irrelevant debating society is no more than a useless gaggle of babbling diplomats with an excuse to live in New York City rather than their little third world countries.

Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) was exactly correct when he said, "I think the United Nations is dangerous to our republic and therefore we ought not to participate." Today, others are agreeing with Rep. Paul.

For instance, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey said: "My own view is it's very, very tricky" to support the Constitution while sustaining ties with the U. N. "If you're a strict constructionist it becomes very difficult to reconcile [participation in the U.N.] with our Constitution. . . . I see the United Nations as having very little value to us for our interests. Their constant carping about being in arrears, in light of the fact we contribute 25 percent [of the U.N. budget] since its inception is a source of irritation."

Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA) seems to also agree: "I think they do have a lot of dictatorships in [the United Nations]. They're very anti-free enterprise and it shows in the way they vote."

Kingston criticizes the United Nations for being excessively bureaucratic and wasteful of U.S. taxpayer dollars. "I think most people who have a sense of the world order realize the United Nations has become a bunch of bureaucrats more concerned about the next state dinner than preserving world peace," he said. "What I don't like about the United Nations is that while the average taxpayer is out there working hard the U.N. people are out there enjoying American tax dollars and just nibbling away at American freedom."

Clearly, the time has come to seriously consider getting the U.N. out of the United States and the United States out of the U.N.

 

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41 posted on 03/15/2003 8:52:03 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK ("He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling." Gandalf)
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm not sure that 25% is correct. Just the other day I heard it was one third.

I believe the one third is pretty close, the "arrears" every one whines and cries about is not our dues, which were paid. When the U.N. goes over budget, they come to the U.S. to pick up the tab for their overages, which we did for years whithout objection. Several years ago Congressman Roscoe Bartlett started objecting to the extortion, that is when the left in the congress, the media, and the U.N. started the rant about our arrears, and calling the U.S. a dead beat nation.

With the U.S. out of the U.N. their budget would have to be cut by 22% to 25%, and they would have no one to pay their ongoing overages. Without our money, if the U.N. survived at all, it would be reduced to a useless debating society.

42 posted on 03/15/2003 9:14:46 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: StopGlobalWhining
I like it. Way to go.
43 posted on 03/16/2003 12:07:46 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Don't just sit there, use the links on the Graphic Teaser.)
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To: c-b 1
Those are just the dues. We pay 30% plus of the military action fees. Add to that food and other aid, I'm betting we probably pay more like 30-40%. In an ideal world, I might not mind. Let's face it, the U.N. is a nightmare. Libya is in charge of human rights and Iraq of all people, is in charge of something related to weapons control. This is no joke, just in the last month or so.
44 posted on 03/16/2003 12:11:06 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Don't just sit there, use the links on the Graphic Teaser.)
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To: TotusTuus
GIT the US Outta the UN and GIT the UN Outta the US...NOW!!!

"FReepers"
(To be sung to Lynyrd Skynyrd's "FReeBird")

Left will steal, beg, or borrow...
To protect Ol' Slick Willie!!
But Bill must be travellin' on now...
'Cuz his Treason threatens our Liberty!!
If we condoned Slick's Corruption...
Country wouldn't be the same!!
Righteous must retake this World, now...
And this World shall be remade...oh-oh-oh-ah-oh-ohhhh...
And the Left shall feel our ra-a-a-age...
Lib'rals, bow yer heads in sha-a-a-a-a-ame...
Lord knows, World must cha-a-a-ange...........

[Guitar weepin']

Realize, Willie, you'll go to prison...yeah, yeah...
You're just a Tyrant, you can't change!!
Oh, please don't act like the Victim...
'Cuz Lord knows you're to blame.
Slick, if we condoned your crimes, boy...
Nation wouldn't be the same!!
So we FRee-eep fer the Truth now...
And this World we shall now change...ohh-oh-oh-oh-oh-ahhhh...
And Lib'rals we'll now de-Fame...
And the Medyuh shall be shamed!!!!!
Lord knows it shall change...
Lord, help us, we must cha-a-a-a-a-ange...
Folks, we must change...
Won't ya join the FRee-pers?!! Yeah-eah-eah!!

[Guitar Jammin' to close]

Mudboy Slim


45 posted on 03/16/2003 2:15:52 AM PST by Mudboy Slim ("Time fer Soddom'sInsane to be Transformed into a PINK MIST!!!")
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To: Tom Jefferson; backhoe; Militiaman7; BARLF; timestax; imintrouble; cake_crumb; Brad's Gramma; ...
The United States foots a quarter of the bill for that U.N paper tiger, international debating society and what do the American people get in return? We get a derogation of our liberty through bogus agreements, the right to host hundreds of ill-behaved diplomats from third- world countries and a system that allows hundreds of communist and socialist political activists into our country to instigate problems we do not need.

No more UN for US-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

46 posted on 03/16/2003 3:10:41 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: forest
Birchers have been calling for the U.S. to get out of the UN for a long time. I guess nobody was listening.
47 posted on 03/16/2003 3:23:49 AM PST by rambo316
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To: knighthawk; FBD; sultan88; Landru; jla; conservativemusician; Taxman
"MUD's Promise!!"
(To be sung to Bruce Springsteen's "The Promise")

Knighthawk's workin' fer Victory...the BigMan works downtown...
CM works in a rock and roll band,
Lookin' for that diff'rence-makin' sound!!
We've gotta li'l job up in DeeCeeTown...
We're Right, that I know!!
Some nights I FReep with Black's judges...some nights I write songs...
We'll follow our dreams just like those RATS do way up on TeeVee!!
We'll Whup RATS' challengers 'til Left's Benign...screw the deadheads and all the RATS screams!!
Lib'rals' Promise's been broken...DemRATS ain't gonna git MUD's Dreams!!

Folks, we won't haveta challenge Left by ourselves...
Righteous folks got somethin' that we'll embolden!!
I lived a secret...mud should'a kept to hisself!!
But I got drunk one night and I told it...
All my life, we'll fight fer Right...
The Fight that Mankind must ALWAYS Win!!
Every day, it just seems hard to believe...
The LIES RATS're believing in!!
Lib'rals're DOLTS!!! Yo, FReepers, you are so Right!!
Clinton's a HO-O-O!! SlickWillie's Lyin' and Slick Righteous Shall Smite!!

I won big once and I hit the coast
But somehow I paid the big cost
Inside I felt like I was carryin' the broken spirits
Of all the other ones who lost
When the promise is broken you go on living
But it steals something from down in your soul
Like when the truth is spoken and it don't make no difference
Something in your heart goes cold
I followed that dream through the southwestern flats
That dead ends in two-bit bars
And when the promise was broken I was far away from home
Sleepin' in the back seat of a borrowed car
Thunder Road, for the lost lovers and all the fixed games
Thunder Road, for the tires rushing by in the rain
Thunder Road, Billy and me we'd always say
Thunder Road, we were gonna take it all and throw it all away

Mid...MUD

48 posted on 03/16/2003 3:41:22 AM PST by Mudboy Slim ("Time fer Soddom'sInsane to be Transformed into a PINK MIST!!!")
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To: Mudboy Slim
How do you keep coming up with them? LOL!
49 posted on 03/16/2003 5:04:24 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: forest
I posted this on another thread. Reposted for information.

Let's see. There are 191 member states in the United Nations and it was chartered in 1945. That's 58 years on American soil. If they each took a turn hosting the morans, it would return to the US in about 11,078 years. Now that seems fair.

We could also improve our spy network with the rotation.
50 posted on 03/16/2003 5:31:10 AM PST by Pit1
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To: knighthawk
bump to the top
51 posted on 03/16/2003 8:57:54 AM PST by timestax
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
In college, a professor once said that real liberty for individuals has always been an extreme rarity thoughout the
history of man. It sure looks that way at the begining of the 21st century. If you remove the threat of the UN, even our own government is expanding its powers and numbers of spy orgs that will keep track of all citizens at a rate that is nearly unbelieveable. None of this can be good for those who believe in and support the rights of individuals.
52 posted on 03/16/2003 12:18:51 PM PST by GirlyGirl2003
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To: GirlyGirl2003
In college, a professor once said that real liberty for individuals has always been an extreme rarity thoughout the history of man. It sure looks that way at the begining of the 21st century. If you remove the threat of the U.N., even our own government is expanding its powers and numbers of spy organizations that will keep track of all citizens at a rate that is nearly unbelieveable.

I completely agree. Everything that is anything of value is registered or licensed in our country. I like carrying a concealed handgun, but you have to have a permit for it. A thought came to me a while ago that concealed weapon permits were a great way to spy and track firearm owners.

53 posted on 03/16/2003 4:37:41 PM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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