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C-span | 3.4.03 | tuckrdout

Posted on 03/04/2003 1:05:56 PM PST by tuckrdout

Just watching the Senate, when the Senior Senator from New York stood to participate in the filabuster of Judicial nominee, Miguel Estrada. Schumer produced a large blue board, which contained a quote. The quote was attributed to the "Legal Times, April 2002"; yet the quote was presented in a way which made it seem as if the White House had spoken the words. I would like to know if any of the brilliant political minds here would be able to tell me where the quote came from. Who actually said these words: "President George W. Bush's Judicial nominees received some very specific confirmation advice last week, "keep your mouths shut".

Did the White house administer that advice to the nominees as Schumer wanted everyone to believe? If not, who gave the advice?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: judgenominees; law; legaltimes; miguelestrada; newyork; schumer; senate

1 posted on 03/04/2003 1:05:56 PM PST by tuckrdout
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To: tuckrdout
So far I've found pages and pages of advice given to nominees at the Brookings Institute website.A Survivor's Guide for Presidential  Nominees

This is from part 4, "Navigating the senate."

Keep two things in mind at this stage. First, limit your talking to private one-on-one meetings with the senators on your confirmation committee and their staffs. And even at your confirmation hearing, it’s best to let the senators themselves do most of the talking. Second, recognize from the start that there are limits on your candor. From now on, you are speaking not just for yourself but for the administration.

Walter Broadnax, a former deputy secretary in the Department of Health and Human Services who is now dean of the School of Public Affairs at American University, puts it bluntly:

Staffers are going to craft answers and give them to you and, in some instances, if you want to get confirmed, you’ll memorize those answers and you will give them back to the appropriate committee. People tell you how to talk. … It’s not very flattering, but that’s the game you’re going to have to play for a while — even after confirmation sometimes.

2 posted on 03/04/2003 1:21:12 PM PST by syriacus (Schumer..peering over your glasses won't make you a judge. You have to work hard, too.)
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To: syriacus
http://www.appointee.brookings.org/sg/toc.htm

Table of Contents for A Survivor's Guide for
Presidential  Nominees  

  Paul Light introduces the Guide  
How to order the Guide
Foreword

Acknowledgements

Introduction: When the Phone Rings
  -The Changing of the Guard
  -Getting the Most Out of the Guide
  -The Burdens and Blessings of Public Service
  -The Best Jobs They Ever Had
  -Glossary of Appointed Positions

Chapter 1: First Things First
  -Do I want this job?
  -Am I the right person for this position?
  -What are the financial and personal ramifications,
   including restrictions on post-government employment?
  -What kind of help will I need to get through the nomination
   and confirmation process?
  -Do I want to live in Washington?
  -Why do I need a fallback strategy?

Chapter 2: People and Places Along the Way
  - Stages of the Appointments Process
      Stage One:   Selection
      Stage Two:   Clearance
      Stage Three: Nomination
      Stage Four:   Confirmation
  - Key Gatekeepers
      The Transition Team
      White House Office of Presidential Personnel
      Office of the  Counsel to the President
      U.S. Office of Government Ethics
      The Senate

Chapter 3: Forms and Financial Disclosure
  - What Do I Have to Fill Out?
  - Getting Prepared Now
  - Key Forms
      White House Personal Data Statement Questionnaire
      SF 86 Questionnaire for National Security Positions
      SF 278 Executive Branch Personnel Public Financial Disclosure Report
  - Coping with the Forms

Chapter 4: Navigating the Senate
  - No Way to Tell
  - Courting the Senate
  - The Senate's Forms
  - The Confirmation Hearing
  - Holding Patterns
  - The Nomination Battles

Chapter 5: Before and After You're Confirmed -- Ethical and Legal Considerations
  - Coming Aboard Before Senate Confirmation
  - The Ethical and Legal Minefields

Chapter 6: Dealing with the Media
  - The Capital of the News World
  - When in Doubt, Don't Talk
  - Telling the Truth

Chapter 7: Moving to Washington
  - An Area Overview
  - What to do When Waiting for Confirmation
  - Where to Live?
  - Schools
  - Big-City Problems
  - Big-City Advantages

Chapter 8: Life After Government
  - Key Employment Restrictions
  - A Bar to Public Service?
  - Ethical Examples
  - The Strength of America's System

Chapter 9: Resources
  - Resources on Appointed Positions
  - Congressional Information Sources
  - Ethics and Rules
  - Forms
  - Key Executive Branch Offices
  - Media Sources
  - Books / Papers

Appendix I :   The Owner's Manual: A Brief Look at the Constitution
Appendix II:  Advice and Consent -- And Rejections
Appendix III: Sample Questions Asked by Senate Committees
Appendix IV: Standard Form 278: Executive Branch Personnel Public Financial Disclosure Report
Appendix V:  Standard Form 86: Questionnaire for National Security Positions



3 posted on 03/04/2003 1:30:54 PM PST by syriacus (Schumer..peering over your glasses won't make you a judge. You have to work hard, too.)
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To: syriacus
Funny how the Bush administration directed any Senators with questions to write them with their queries. They promised to answer any question Democrats wished to ask regarding Miguel Estrada. They did not recieve one question by last Fridays deadline. Either Democrats can't write or there real reason for opposition has nothing to do with the candidate.
I guess it's all about the stonewalling.
4 posted on 03/04/2003 1:57:40 PM PST by ottersnot (Free Iraq, then France)
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To: ottersnot
Either Democrats can't write

LOL

5 posted on 03/04/2003 1:58:52 PM PST by syriacus (Schumer..peering over your glasses won't make you a judge. You have to work hard, too.)
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To: tuckrdout
A Survivor's Guide for Presidential  Nominees ,   Navigating the Senate (continued) The Confirmation Hearing
Hearings are formal events. You will be sworn in, although the rules of evidence will not apply — senators can ask whatever they want. Be deferential at all times. Always refer to your interlocutors as "Senator." Don’t be surprised or disheartened if senators drift in and out on the way to other meetings, or if just one or two senators turn out to hear your opening statement and pose questions.

Generally speaking, the less you talk, the better your prospects.


6 posted on 03/04/2003 2:04:20 PM PST by syriacus (Schumer..peering over your glasses won't make you a judge. You have to work hard, too.)
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To: tuckrdout
Judge Nominees Told to Speak Very Softly

Jonathan Groner
Legal Times
04-22-2002

President George W. Bush's judicial nominees received some very specific confirmation advice last week: Keep your mouths shut.

The warning came from someone who has been a part of the process. Laurence Silberman, a senior judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, told an audience of 150 at a Federalist Society luncheon that he served as an informal adviser to his then-D.C. Circuit colleague Antonin Scalia when Scalia was nominated to the Supreme Court in 1986.

"I was his counsel, and I counseled him to say nothing [at his confirmation hearings] concerning any matter that could be thought to bear on any cases coming before the Court," Silberman said.

Silberman said his advice led to Scalia's speedy confirmation by keeping the nominee out of trouble on Capitol Hill. He also explained that the advice was intended to be rather far-reaching.

Scalia called Silberman at one point, the latter recalled, and told him he was about to be questioned about his views about Marbury v. Madison, the nearly 200-year-old case that established the principle of judicial review.

"I told him that as a matter of principle, he shouldn't answer that question either," Silberman said. He explained that once a prospective judge discusses any case at all, the floodgates open and he would be forced to discuss other cases.

"It is unethical to answer such questions," Silberman said. "It can't help but have some effect on your decision-making process once you become a judge."

In contrast, Silberman said, "my friend Bob Bork" ventured into the legal thickets and suffered for it. Bork "thought he could turn the confirmation process into a Yale Law School classroom," Silberman explained.

The Supreme Court nomination of Robert Bork, also a D.C. Circuit judge, was defeated in 1987, partly because Bork expressed controversial views in his writings and on the stand.

Silberman went on to say that for many nominees, landing a judgeship might not be the best result. Referring to a recent Supreme Court decision not to review a case brought by judges seeking pay raises, Silberman said that anyone who is not already wealthy "faces an immediate decline in his or her real income" if seated on the federal bench.

"The first prize is not to get a hearing," he noted. "The second prize is to get a hearing and not to be confirmed. The third prize is to get confirmed."

Other panelists at the Federalist Society's discussion on judicial independence were Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), former presidential counsel Fred Fielding of Wiley, Rein & Fielding, and moderator Stuart Taylor Jr. of National Journal .


7 posted on 03/04/2003 2:10:14 PM PST by Sandy
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To: Sandy
God Bless You Sandy! Thank you very much......

Slimy Democrats need to be called on this! Let's do it, shall we?
8 posted on 03/04/2003 2:26:01 PM PST by tuckrdout
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To: Sandy
Oh, since you are so resourceful....do you know how soon the Senate record is placed on the internet? How soon until Schumer's comments are online?
9 posted on 03/04/2003 2:31:44 PM PST by tuckrdout
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To: tuckrdout
Today's record should be on the web tomorrow morning. Here.
10 posted on 03/04/2003 3:29:06 PM PST by Sandy
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To: Sandy; tuckrdout
Hatch is reading from your article right now!!
He said Schumer was wrong to take the "Keep your mouths shut " quote out of the article's context.
11 posted on 03/05/2003 8:47:56 AM PST by syriacus (Schumer..peering over your glasses won't make you a judge. You have to work hard, too.)
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To: syriacus
Oh! I missed it! Doggone it! What did he say?

I am so glad he called them on it! Good for him.

And thank you for telling me...
12 posted on 03/05/2003 12:05:07 PM PST by tuckrdout
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To: tuckrdout
Sen. Hatch, Congressional Record, March 5, 2003:
 My colleague from New York has stated that according to an article that appeared in the Legal Times in April 2002, DC Circuit Judge Laurence Silberman has advised President Bush's judicial nominees to ``keep their mouths shut.''

As the rest of the article explains, in fact, Judge Silberman simply explained that the rules of judicial ethics prohibit nominees from indicating how they would rule in a given case or on a given issue--or even appearing to indicate how they would rule.

As the same article reported, Judge Silberman stated:

   It is unethical to answer such questions. It can't help but have some effect on your decisionmaking process once you become a judge.
   A copy of this article has also been printed in the RECORD.

   Yet I heard my colleagues on the other side yesterday blowing smoke over there, using a quote out of context to try to indicate that Judge Silberman was giving them radical advice. The fact is, he gave them advice that every Democrat President and every Democrat President's Justice Department has given to the Democrat nominees for these courts. It is proper advice.

   This advice is consistent with Canon 5A(3)(d) of the ABA's Model Code of Judicial Conduct, which states that prospective judges:

   [S]hall not ..... make pledges or promises of conduct in office other than the faithful and impartial performance of the duties of office ..... [or] make statements that commit or appear to commit the candidate with respect to cases, controversies, or issues that are likely to come before the court.
   Justice Thurgood Marshall made the same point in 1967 when he refused, as I mentioned before, to answer questions about the fifth amendment during his confirmation hearing for the Supreme Court. I referenced that quote earlier.

13 posted on 03/06/2003 7:13:40 AM PST by syriacus (Schumer..peering over your glasses won't make you a judge. You have to work hard, too.)
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