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Ruined Snow Penis Stimulates Debate (Loony Feminist Alert!)
Harvard Crimson ^
| Monday, February 24, 2003
| HANA R. ALBERTS
Posted on 02/24/2003 12:01:43 PM PST by MikalM
Ruined Snow Penis Stimulates Debate
When a few members of the Harvard crew team decided to build a snowy representation of the male anatomy on Feb. 11, they never imagined it would be so hard to keep it up.
The 9-foot snow phallus, constructed in Tercentenary Theater, was torn down just hours after its erection.
But its impression still sparked an intense debate, from dining halls to dorm rooms, over the appropriateness of public displays of genitalia.
Even The Economist magazine weighed in on the discussion, offering the destruction of the sculpture as evidence of American prudishness on its usually staid pages.
But womens groups on campus have led a chorus of complaints against the snow penis, arguing that such a display is demeaning to women.
It was offensive because it was pornographic, said Amy E. Keel 04, who said she and her roommate dismantled the giant snow penis.
As a feminist, pornography is degrading to women and creates a violent atmosphere, she said.
Keel said that her personal experience as a rape survivor makes this statue even more uncomfortable to observe.
Men think they have the right to force that on you, she said. Its a logical extension.
Furthermore, Keel claims that she and her roommate were verbally and physically harassed by a group of roughly 25 men when they attempted to tear down the statue with a cardboard tube at 1:30 a.m. the morning after it was built.
A few people came out and crowded me with their bodies and one person shoved me away from the penis, she said. It was gendered violence, because [their comments] were said in the context of our gender and accompanied by aggressive actions toward us.
Though Keel assumed some of her harassers were among the creators of the statue, she said she could not identify any of the men.
And crew team captain Michael J. Skey 04 denies that he or any of the other makers of the statue had been involved in the incident. According to Spey, the group left the Yard over three hours before Keel and her roommate tried to take down the snow phallus.
We cleared out by 10:15 p.m., Spey said. We had morning practice, and if guys are out there that late Id be pissed. Thats why we did it so early.
But regardless of the alleged circumstances surrounding the snow penis downfall, a controversy over the meaning of the statue lingers.
Womens Studies Lecturer Diane L. Rosenfeld, who teaches Women, Violence and the Law this semester, said that the implications of the snow phallus go beyond the legitimacy of the statues presence.
The ice sculpture was erected in a public space, one that should be free from menacing reminders of womens sexual vulnerability, Rosenfeld wrote in an e-mail yesterday.
She said the snow penis follows a long line of public phallic symbols, including the Washington Monument and missiles.
Women do not need to be reminded of the power of the symbol of the male genitalia, Rosenfeld said. My guess is that they are constantly reminded of it in daily messages.
A discussion about feminist perspectives on the statue, sponsored by the Radcliffe Union of Students, will take place Tuesday night in the Adams House small dining room.
But the makers of the statue said they intended to build the snow penis as a simple joke.
Skey said he came up with the idea to allow a few members of the team to hang out together outside of practice.
We built it for fun, instead of building a snowman, he said. We built it specifically as a junior high prank.
Skey said he never expected such national attentionor such heated opposition.
Once it turned around into a huge sexism debate, it was like a giant keg of gunpowder waiting for a spark, Skey said.
In spite of Skeys intentions, Keel said she was offended by the joke.
I have a right to speak out against the joke, Keel said. I criticize the motives of putting it up, but since they did, it is within my rights to put it down. It goes both ways.
Skey said he agreed Keel did not do anything wrong by knocking down the statue.
If people found it obscene, they had a right to rip it down, he said. Thats perfectly true.
But Skey said he thinks that at a school like Harvard, jokes can be blown out of proportion.
Smart kids overanalyze things, he said.
Staff writer Hana R. Alberts can be reached at alberts@fas.harvard.edu.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: Massachusetts
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:01:43 PM PST
by
MikalM
To: MikalM
How come they complain so much about this but I never hear any complaining about women being nude almost everywhere you look!!!
To: MikalM
I had to check the source twice to make sure this wan't from The Onion.
3
posted on
02/24/2003 12:05:25 PM PST
by
FreeTally
To: MikalM
Victimology run amok.
4
posted on
02/24/2003 12:06:15 PM PST
by
GSWarrior
To: MikalM
If it had been a sculpture of a hammer and sickle those womyn would have been feverishly rubbing against it like dogs in heat.
5
posted on
02/24/2003 12:07:04 PM PST
by
JoJo Gunn
(Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
To: MikalM
What's stuck up Amy Keel's snow-gina???
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:07:21 PM PST
by
Callahan
To: MikalM
But its impression still sparked an intense debate, from dining halls to dorm rooms, over the appropriateness of public displays of genitalia.Public displays of genitalia are not appropriate. This isn't a feminist issue, it is a public morals issue.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:07:31 PM PST
by
templar
To: MikalM
...But womens groups on campus have led a chorus of complaints against the snow penis, arguing that such a display is demeaning to women...
...The same women's groups who were silent when Monica was an item...
To: MikalM
Men think they have the right to force that on you, she said. Its a logical extension. Hm. No matter how she tries, she can't escape the double entendre.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:08:07 PM PST
by
Illbay
(Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy. -- 2 Nephi 25)
To: MikalM
Men think they have the right to force that on you, she said. Its a logical extension.
...was torn down just hours after its erection.
There isn't much of anything one could say about this that isn't funny.
10
posted on
02/24/2003 12:08:50 PM PST
by
AdA$tra
To: MikalM
Think of this story the next somebodys Harvard credentials are touted.
To: templar
But to lump this in with the Washington Monument and missiles? You don't think this person is perhaps already a little over the edge?
To: MikalM
A few people came out and crowded me with their bodies and one person shoved me away Next time, bring a blowtorch.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:09:37 PM PST
by
Alouette
To: MikalM
It was offensive because it was pornographic, said Amy E. Keel 04, who said she and her roommate dismantled the giant snow penis."As a feminist, pornography is degrading to women and creates a violent atmosphere," she said.
Keel and her friends then excused themselves from the interview, saying they were late for a local performance of "The Vagina Monologues."
Skey said he agreed Keel did not do anything wrong by knocking down the statue.
"If people found it obscene, they had a right to rip it down," he said. "Thats perfectly true."
That's more disturbing than anything the feminazis said.
To: MikalM
They're just nervous because they didn't know they came that big in white.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:10:33 PM PST
by
RichInOC
(Well, actually, they don't come that big in any color, but why ruin a good joke?)
To: MikalM
It was offensive because it was pornographic, said Amy E. Keel 04, who said she and her roommate dismantled the giant snow penis.They probably ate it.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:10:57 PM PST
by
Pushi
To: MikalM; wimpycat; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; hobbes1
When a few members of the Harvard crew team decided to build a snowy representation of the male anatomy on Feb. 11, they never imagined it would be so hard to keep it up. The 9-foot snow phallus, constructed in Tercentenary Theater, was torn down just hours after its erection.
[snip]
Womens Studies Lecturer Diane L. Rosenfeld, who teaches Women, Violence and the Law this semester, said that the implications of the snow phallus go beyond the legitimacy of the statues presence.
The ice sculpture was erected in a public space, one that should be free from menacing reminders of womens sexual vulnerability, Rosenfeld wrote in an e-mail yesterday.
She said the snow penis follows a long line of public phallic symbols, including the Washington Monument and missiles.
Women do not need to be reminded of the power of the symbol of the male genitalia, Rosenfeld said. My guess is that they are constantly reminded of it in daily messages.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:11:39 PM PST
by
Chancellor Palpatine
(those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
To: MikalM
Smart kids overanalyze things, he saidOdd. I see no evidence of "smart kids" anywhere in the article.
To: MikalM
She said the snow penis follows a long line of public phallic symbols, including the Washington Monument and missiles.
Women do not need to be reminded of the power of the symbol of the male genitalia, Rosenfeld said. My guess is that they are constantly reminded of it in daily messages.
Wonder if any of the nekkid male protesters walked up to her, wagged some weenie and said, "Woo woo!"?
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:13:26 PM PST
by
ErnBatavia
((Bumperootus!))
To: MikalM
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:14:39 PM PST
by
Pan_Yans Wife
(Lurking since 2000.)
To: JoJo Gunn
I remember this funny Jeopardy-type game show where three Harvard coeds squared off against three of community college students. The intellectual snobbery of the Harvard students was on full display as they turned down their liberal noses at the "little people." Hilariously, all the questions pertained to TV sitcoms and pop-metal bands instead of Marx and Sontag. The community college slackers kicked their arrogant butts back to Boston.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:15:01 PM PST
by
Callahan
To: Pushi
They probably ate it.
Now THAT is highly doubtful!
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:15:34 PM PST
by
ErnBatavia
((Bumperootus!))
To: MikalM
they never imagined it would be so hard to keep it up. The 9-foot snow phallus, constructed in Tercentenary Theater, was torn down just hours after its erection.
[snip]
But Skey said he thinks that at a school like Harvard, jokes can be blown out of proportion.
Writer Hana Alberts deserves some sort of award...
To: AdA$tra
Guess we better not say anything about the shape of that opening we broke through the lake to go ice fishing.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:16:11 PM PST
by
Cvengr
To: Chancellor Palpatine
ROFLMAO!
Why the "snip"?
Ouch!
This can't be for real. All that priapic innuendo in the article...
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:16:16 PM PST
by
wimpycat
(Well it's good that you're fine and I'm fine. I agree with you. It's great to be fine.)
To: MikalM
As a feminist, pornography is degrading to women and creates a violent atmosphere, she said.
.
.
.
It was gendered violence, because [their comments] were said in the context of our gender and accompanied by aggressive actions toward us. I seriously can't believe there are people in the world who use sentences like this with a straight face.
To: MikalM
Women do not need to be reminded of the power of the symbol of the male genitalia, Rosenfeld said. My guess is that they are constantly reminded of it in daily messages.
Oh bite me Rosenfeld.
To: Ichneumon
As soon as it's brought to light this whole big thing will melt away.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:17:59 PM PST
by
Cvengr
To: Semaphore Heathcliffe
The next time anybody says that someone is brilliant because they went to Harvard, I'll remember this article.
It is just like the movie PCU.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:18:05 PM PST
by
Chancellor Palpatine
(those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
To: MikalM
She said the snow penis follows a long line of public phallic symbols, including the Washington Monument and missiles. Gee, Dr. Goddard, the pancake-shaped missiles aren't flying very well. Perhaps we should try a different shape, maybe pointy?
Oh no, Jack. What would women think?
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:18:34 PM PST
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: wimpycat
It sure brought a smile to my face. The prof and the "victims" will read it and think they're vindicated, everybody else will see the big joke.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:19:57 PM PST
by
Chancellor Palpatine
(those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
To: Izzy Dunne
Because they create a hostile dining environment, I haven't been able to eat clams in years.
To: MikalM
These feminists are so ignorant they didn't realize that all they had to do was leave the snow penis alone for a while--sooner or later it would have just melted away.
To: Chancellor Palpatine
The only person I know to have gone to Harvard is also the most blatantly leftist and PC person I know.
To: MikalM
She said the snow penis follows a long line of public phallic symbols, including the Washington Monument and missiles. Don't forget swords, cigars, baseball bats, motorcycles and laser pointers. It's OK though, the feminists can symbolize all they want over donuts, hula hoops and the number 'zero'. I don't mind ;)
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:21:40 PM PST
by
Sender
(-A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. -WOPR-)
To: MikalM
attacking a giant penis with cardboard rolls? now thats a story lmao
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:22:08 PM PST
by
linn37
(work my fingers to the bone and what do I get?)
To: Semaphore Heathcliffe
You must've met the conservative one.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:22:15 PM PST
by
Cvengr
To: AdA$tra
There isn't much of anything one could say about this that isn't funny. I'll tell you what's not funny: SHE'S SERIOUS!
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:22:18 PM PST
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: templar
Public displays of genitalia are not appropriate. This isn't a feminist issue, it is a public morals issue. Check Post #14.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:22:35 PM PST
by
MikalM
To: Jonah Hex
You don't think this person is perhaps already a little over the edge?Oh, she's as loony as a fruitcake. Or a Californian. But it doesn't take away from the idea of public morals and public displays of genitalia. She's right about the inapropriateness of the display, but her reasons are as stupid as the display itself (IMO).
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:23:24 PM PST
by
templar
To: MikalM
When a few members of the Harvard crew team decided to build a snowy representation of the male anatomy on Feb. 11,
they never imagined it would be so hard to keep it up.LOLOL!!!!
To: Cvengr
scary thing is, she's probably pretty tame compared to the rest of the Hahvad population.
To: MikalM
Check Post #14.Check #40.
Two different issues here, the display and the crazy chick.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:26:53 PM PST
by
templar
To: MikalM
The 9-foot snow phallus, constructed in Tercentenary Theater, was torn down just hours after its erection.They could have just flashed a picture of Janet Reno in front of it (I'm melting! I'm meellting...)
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:27:50 PM PST
by
dirtboy
To: Semaphore Heathcliffe
Yes, the Rice of the North has its drawbacks. ;^)
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:28:21 PM PST
by
Cvengr
To: MikalM
ROFL. I figured this had to be from BSNN or the Onion at first.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:29:44 PM PST
by
Dan from Michigan
(Every man dies. Not every man really lives.)
To: cubreporter
Obviously boobies aren't "threatening" or "violent" like the erect penis is.
To: templar
The point of bringing up Post #14 (the VAGINA MONOLOGUES reference) was to show the incredible double standards these people have. A snow construction that will melt in a few days is a public obscenity, but a tuition- and tax-subsidized three-hour paean to female genitalia is a triumph. Especially if it celebrates the seduction of a 16 YO girl by a middle-aged lesbian (yup, that's one of the "Monologues"...)
As for public art displaying genitalia being immoral, wouldn't that disqualify a lot of the great paintings and statues of the last 2500 years from ever being shown?
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:33:21 PM PST
by
MikalM
To: MikalM
Smart kids overanalyze things, he said. ... as do the stupid.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:39:23 PM PST
by
theDentist
(So..... This is Virginia..... where are all the virgins?)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
I have two things to say:
"Put some ice on that" and "it's just sex".
Let the college kiddies at Hahvahd ponder that in their poli-sci classes.
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posted on
02/24/2003 12:40:01 PM PST
by
weegee
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