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Posted on 01/15/2003 2:41:46 AM PST by knighthawk
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This group is also suspected to be behind the 30.000 dollar rewared to kill a prominent Jew (there was a list of 15 of them circulating) in Denmark.
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Germany's top security official on Wednesday outlawed an Islamic organization, Hizb ut-Tahrir, which he accused of extremism and spreading anti-Semitic propaganda in universities.
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posted on
01/15/2003 4:16:07 AM PST
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syriacus
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... saying its aim is to restore the "Islamic way of life" in the Muslim world and that it considers violence and armed struggle to achieve that aim a violation of Islamic law.The Interior Ministry said the group advocated the destruction of Israel and called for the killing of Jews...
I suppose killing Jews and destroying Israel won't require *violence and armed struggle*. < /sarcasm>
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01/15/2003 4:29:03 AM PST
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xJones
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I guess it's politically correct to call the members of Hizb ut-Tahrir
"independent Muslims."UZBEKISTAN: Interview with Human Rights Watch representative
We sort of group all those people [together] and call them independent Muslims,but they don't promote violence. If you go to a Hizb ut-Tahrir trial, you will find that the allegations against them are that they distributed some leaflets or materials, that they perhaps collected money to give to families of jailed Hizb ut-Tahrir activists, or they were members of the Hizb ut-Tahrir and took oaths as its members. That's the basic allegations against some 95 percent of the people in prison. For Wahhabis, there is a similar set of allegations. They are imprisoned for meeting others, learning and reciting the Koran in Arabic. It will be pointed out that they were particularly pious in terms of women and that they wore headscarfs in a way which was not traditionally Uzbek, but fundamentalist Islamist or Arabic.
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01/15/2003 4:30:08 AM PST
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syriacus
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A little background on Shaker Assem, who is the representative of Hizb ut-Tahrir in Germany, whose apartment was
raided last November.
ISLAM IN EUROPEAssem was drawn to Hizb ut-Tahrir 16 years ago, as a 22-year-old lost soul in Vienna. "I'd grown up in Egypt, where my father was from, and then moved to Austria, where my mother is from," he says. "I didn't really fit in with a lot of the Austrians I met, but I couldn't feel comfortable with those guys you see at European mosques either the ones with the long beards and robes but nothing going on upstairs." After a brief flirtation with Scientology, he re-embraced Islam just as someone told him about Hizb ut-Tahrir. The Hizb ut-Tahrir members "were educated and self-sufficient and open to the world around them," Assem recalls. "It wasn't all about beards and robes and prayer, but about logic."
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01/15/2003 5:15:48 AM PST
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syriacus
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posted on
01/15/2003 5:44:15 AM PST
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facedown
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posted on
01/15/2003 5:44:17 AM PST
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Mo1
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I'm sure this group didn't mean any harm. Most Muslims are peaceful.
(sarcasm off)
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posted on
01/15/2003 5:47:58 AM PST
by
Morrigan
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Good for Germany. They were the last country I would have expected would put their foot down on Islamic radicals. Making such judgements seems to go against their Green Party principles. When are we going to see the same actions here in the states? I'm sure a lot of people on this thread remember the article that came out not long after 9-11 about the Islamic schools in the States that were teaching little children that they had to "attack Jews" to help bring about the second coming of an Islamic Christ. What is being done about those schools? I haven't heard that anything has been done. And what about the Islamic schools that turned John Walker Lindt into a pro-Taliban traitor?
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01/15/2003 7:40:11 AM PST
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Sally II
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Thank you for the recognition. I was relieved when I heard of these news, too.
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Just remember the Koran says it's ok to lie to the infidels.
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01/15/2003 1:54:47 PM PST
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JohnathanRGalt
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Perhaps the US will now work on the Saudi sponsored jihadi schools here.
Good for the Germans.
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posted on
01/15/2003 2:25:34 PM PST
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Cindy
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'Bout time the Germans at least pretended to open their blind eyes. Of all the countries that take the "It's none of our business" attitude towards racism and Islamo-fascism, Germany shouldn't be amongst them.
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posted on
01/15/2003 4:08:37 PM PST
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Minutemen
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After a brief flirtation with Scientology, he re-embraced Islam You've said it all.
Still, I wish these guys would just go back to Baba Ram Dass (whose picture on a giant billboard used to grace the freeway in San Francisco up until the earthquake), drop Allah-the-moon-god, and stop trying to kill the rest of us.
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posted on
01/15/2003 4:14:38 PM PST
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livius
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This sounds like a step -- albeit a itty bitty baby step -- in the right direction.
In my never humble opinion ALL forms of Islam should at this point be outlawed in the United States and Europe. All foreign-born Muslims should be summarily deported -- without violence -- back to the Middle East -- the ONLY place they rightly belong.
I'd feel more secure sleeping with a King Cobra than I do with the alarming phenomenon of seeing MOSQUES springing up all over the United States and Europe.
Islam is about as compatible with Western Civilization as CRUMBLED BLUE CHEESE would be sprinkled on a BUTTERSCOTCH SUNDAE.
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01/15/2003 4:25:41 PM PST
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Odile
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