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Taking a Chance on Love
Lewrockwell.com ^ | September 13, 2002 | J. H. Huebert

Posted on 09/13/2002 9:33:26 AM PDT by Korth

Today’s boy-girl scene on college campuses is a mess.

Most young people don’t know how to develop satisfying relationships, and many get themselves into trouble with messy, mindless sex.

As a solution, some critics, particularly religious ones, advocate a return to the concept of courtship, where young men and women don’t date, but rather get to know each other with the explicit goal of working toward marriage.

But is shunning the institution of dating – of man and maid engaging in various activities with one another without the goal of marriage – the solution?

The latest available research suggests that one problem with today’s campus situation may be that there is not enough actual dating going on. Indeed, the recent well-publicized study by the Institute for American Values shows that college students, rather than do what one typically thinks of as "dating," tend to hang out in large groups, and then either "hook up" for commitment- and emotion-free sex (no date), or move into extremely intense relationships in which they spend almost all of their time together (closer to cohabitation than dating).

Clearly, this situation is not good. But is "courtship," with its almost monomaniacal focus upon marriage, the solution? I would suggest not, and further suggest that the answer may instead be to simply give genuine dating a chance.

Contrary to what courtship advocates suggest, one is not faced with a choice between marriage-minded courtship and aimlessly "playing the field." A good person doesn’t play the field for its own sake. He does it so he can learn more about what other people are like, and about what he wants in the way of experiences and relationships with members of the opposite sex. In short, he does it as part of his lifelong quest for self-improvement, while having some fun at the same time. Who could object to that?

The problem with kids today isn’t that they aren’t focused on marriage as a goal in dating. It’s that they’re not focused on any goals at all, in any aspect of their lives, and do all of their activities (watching TV, playing video games, etc.) with no particular purpose in mind.

Accordingly, is marriage the best goal to work toward in dealing with the opposite sex? I don’t believe so – at least not in one’s teens and early twenties.

While I was a student at Grove City College – a strict conservative school, which to its great credit offers serious-minded students an opportunity to study without being surrounded by the distractions of sex, drugs and alcohol – I had an opportunity to watch for four years the sort of marriage mania courtship that its fans advocate, and found it depressing.

In that setting, I observed the same thing again and again: a couple meets in their freshman or sophomore year, they spend a lot of time with one another and become emotionally attached, and at the end of four years, marriage.

Disgusting.

Here we have young men and women who have spent their entire lives under the close watch of either their parents, or their school acting in loco parentis, and now they’re going to commit the rest of their lives to a spouse, immediately taking upon themselves all of the limitations associated with marriage.

Not that there’s anything wrong with marriage per se. But the belief system of these individuals is such that they can’t do anything with a member of the opposite sex without focusing on the goal of eternal commitment. This results in their getting married without having an opportunity to learn more about themselves, and life and living generally, at least not independent of the influence of their parents or friends.

I doubt anyone would find it outrageous to opine that the more experiences one has had, and the more he has learned about himself and about life, the more value he will bring to his relationships. Given that, along with the biological reality that young people will want some manner of relationships with members of the opposite sex, do we really want to push them into pairings that are commitment-minded, when they haven’t yet had the opportunity to develop on their own?

Many people pursuing the courtship route do so out of a religious belief that God has chosen "the one" for them, and as long as they continue praying as they go along and feel like they’re doing the right thing, all will work out for the best. That could be, but I’d like to think that God generally appreciates healthy doses of common sense and rational analysis, detached from any emotions one may be feeling in a given moment.

As a result of their focus on marriage and their aversion to less serious dating, the courtship folks tend to invest their emotions heavily into their relationships, and cling fiercely to the notion that there is "one perfect person" out there for them. Thus, if they begin to wonder if perhaps they should go out and "play the field," or feel less than fully satisfied in any other way, they don’t feel free to act on these feelings, and instead rationalize their way around these problems, thus remaining in their unsatisfying marriage-minded relationship, possibly for life.

Of course, if some who have tried courtship now find themselves in happy and fulfilling marriages, then that, certainly, is all that counts, as far as they’re concerned.

But the rest of us need not consider ourselves "evil" or feel in any way ashamed for enjoying the company of the opposite sex without the goal of marriage necessarily in mind. Certainly we should not cheat ourselves – and our eventual mates – out of countless opportunities to become better, healthier, happier people than we might otherwise be.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: christianity; college; courtship; dating; marriage; relationships
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1 posted on 09/13/2002 9:33:26 AM PDT by Korth
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To: Korth
"I observed the same thing again and again: a couple meets in their freshman or sophomore year, they spend a lot of time with one another and become emotionally attached, and at the end of four years, marriage. Disgusting."

Why is this disgusting? I think falling in love and marrying and spending the rest of your lives together is a wonderful thing.

2 posted on 09/13/2002 9:40:23 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: Korth
As a solution, some critics, particularly religious ones, advocate a return to the concept of courtship, where young men and women don’t date, but rather get to know each other with the explicit goal of working toward marriage.

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There's nothing wrong with dating. It should be a way of getting to know and understand each other. Instead it has become a sex game as portrayed in magazines and TV shows. What is needed is an influx of honest maturity.

3 posted on 09/13/2002 9:58:53 AM PDT by RLK
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To: Korth
I hate to be a broken record but read the Communist Manifesto with "Hollywood's" influence in mind. Simple answers are available as to what we are witnissing with the "over-sexed" youth.
4 posted on 09/13/2002 10:05:09 AM PDT by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: Korth
But the rest of us need not consider ourselves "evil" or feel in any way ashamed for enjoying the company of the opposite sex without the goal of marriage necessarily in mind.

If you are "enjoying" the opposite sex carnally, outside of marriage - then you are a fornicator or an adulterer and you should be ashamed.


5 posted on 09/13/2002 10:09:11 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: Michael2001; AnnaZ; P-Marlowe; RnMomof7; RaceBannon; yendu bwam; JMJ333; Dimensio; Bryan; ...
Input?
6 posted on 09/13/2002 10:15:06 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: Korth
WILCO
7 posted on 09/13/2002 10:19:33 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: ppaul
Friend, relax. The quote was "enjoying the company". It said nothing of carnal relations. . .
8 posted on 09/13/2002 10:21:03 AM PDT by Salgak
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To: Korth
I never have had any interest in casual (i.e., non-marriage-targeted) dating. I just don't see going through that stress and expense with someone who I don't consider to be at least potential spouse material.

Anyway, it doesn't matter to me anymore -- I'm getting married in December to a girl I met on the Internet. :)
9 posted on 09/13/2002 10:26:51 AM PDT by Sloth
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To: ppaul

In that setting, I observed the same thing again and again: a couple meets in their freshman or sophomore year, they spend a lot of time with one another and become emotionally attached, and at the end of four years, marriage.

Disgusting.

Here we have young men and women who have spent their entire lives under the close watch of either their parents, or their school acting in loco parentis, and now they’re going to commit the rest of their lives to a spouse, immediately taking upon themselves all of the limitations associated with marriage.

I haven't the energy to debunk this whole piece, but herein lies the writer's issue. He's clueless, or, forgive the baseness, had an unsatisfactory physical relationship with his wife.

Marriage causes one to, when done correctly, take on the duties, responsibilities and challenges of marriage. The reward is the creation of a new family and all of the wonderful rewards that unit proffers. When two become one the sky's the limit.

Thanks for the ping.


10 posted on 09/13/2002 10:35:56 AM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: Korth
Indeed, the recent well-publicized study by the Institute for American Values shows that college students, rather than do what one typically thinks of as "dating," tend to hang out in large groups, and then either "hook up" for commitment- and emotion-free sex (no date), or move into extremely intense relationships in which they spend almost all of their time together (closer to cohabitation than dating).

I get such a kick out of the mortified baby-boomers who think their kids are straying. They did the same thing, and many employed the wonderfully catalyzing substances of cocaine, quaaludes, and pot. I daresay even some of the more "sophisticated" young adults of the '20s '30s and '40s did the same thing. The difference is that now we talk about it.

11 posted on 09/13/2002 10:40:46 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: ppaul
If you are "enjoying" the opposite sex carnally, outside of marriage - then you are a fornicator or an adulterer and you should be ashamed.

I am ashamed .. very ashamed.

Somebody please stop me before I enjoy the opposite sex carnally again!

12 posted on 09/13/2002 10:41:16 AM PDT by eshu
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To: Korth
Believing that young males and females can get together and pretend there are no sexual attractions going on is lying to oneself.

Believing that no sexual liaisons will develop is being naive.

What is the most honorable way for those liaisons to develop and what is the most responsible way for them to be handled?

Hint: The end result of any chosen way should have no person, no party to a liaison or potential liaison, emotionally, physically, spiritually, or socially injured.
13 posted on 09/13/2002 10:55:31 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins
"Hint: The end result of any chosen way should have no person, no party to a liaison or potential liaison, emotionally, physically, spiritually, or socially injured."

Sounds like the answer is marriage.

14 posted on 09/13/2002 11:01:08 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: MEGoody
Sounds like the answer is marriage.

Marriage didn't just accidentally develop. There were serious concerns that gave rise to the institution of marriage.

15 posted on 09/13/2002 11:09:40 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Korth
Sounds like a feminazi. 'You don't learn about yourself unless you're screwing around' is the message I get from this.

To be truthful I would rather have courted and skipped all the sexual baggage from dating. To think of the energy and time wasted.

God Save America (Please)

16 posted on 09/13/2002 11:10:37 AM PDT by John O
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To: Korth
bump for later.
17 posted on 09/13/2002 12:24:35 PM PDT by Steve0113
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To: John O
No Kidding, John!

I think I've actually made the mistake of being involved physically thinking that this would assist in the development of intimacy and I being in a non-sexual relationship right now, I realize how stupid the modern dating scene can be.

So many people told my ex-girlfriend years back that we were "each other's security blanket" and asked if maybe we weren't holding each other back from "new experiences." The person I'm dating now has had that brought up to them(they're young) and I still wonder what is meant by new experiences. About 6 years ago, I was battling to become a better person and deal with issues from my father's life and death. None of these whores(all women who talked to my girl) had performed CPR on a dying parent or dealt with a Vietnam vet with problems and had the nerve to talk to anyone about "experiences."

Since when did being promiscuous(no matter how far you go, SOMETHING will happen when dating), drinking, partying and generally eschewing the intellectual and spiritual for mindless and temporary pleasures become worthwhile experiences, while building a loving, trusting relationship with someone of high character and intellect become obstacles to one's personal growth?
18 posted on 09/13/2002 1:31:51 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Korth
I'm one of those old-fashioned guys who never dated a woman that I didn't think might have potential to become my wife. As a devout Christian, I wasn't interested in seeking sex for sex's sake. Over my ten years of dating (and looking), I met and dated seriously some fifteen wonderful women. When I was twenty-six, I met and fell in love with my super-special wife-to-be. The wait was worth every moment, as I have been blessed with her as few men are lucky to be.
19 posted on 09/13/2002 4:13:34 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: ppaul
I can't really add much because I married my high-school sweet heart. But with what's going on in the world today, I'm not allowing any of my five daughters to date ever. We're not Catholic but they'll become Nuns if I have any say.
20 posted on 09/14/2002 12:36:51 AM PDT by Michael2001
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