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Civil (Libertarian) War? (Libertarians and Secession)
Lewrockwell.com ^ | June 8, 2002 | James Ostrowski

Posted on 06/08/2002 7:06:31 AM PDT by Korth

The Cato Institute has published an article by its adjunct scholar Tibor R. Machan: "Lincoln, Secession and Slavery." Machan is a distinguished philosopher and a pioneer of the modern libertarian revival. I assume, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that his views mirror Cato’s on the subject of his essay.

Machan argues, in essence, that, while secession is a right consistent with the principles of the Declaration of Independence, that right does not extend to cases in which the seceding parties takes slaves with them when they leave. Thus, against the grain of much recent libertarian thought, he defends Lincoln and his Civil War.

Machan writes:

"More important is whether one group may leave a larger group that it had been part of – and in the process take along unwilling third parties. The seceding group definitely does not have that right. Putting it in straightforward terms, yes, a divorce (or, more broadly, the right of peaceful exit from a partnership) may not be denied to anyone unless – and this is a very big "unless" – those wanting to leave intend to take along hostages. . . . So, when one considers that the citizens of the union who intended to go their own way were, in effect, kidnapping millions of people – most of whom would rather have stayed with the union that held out some hope for their eventual liberation – the idea of secession no longer seems so innocent. And regardless of Lincoln's motives – however tyrannical his aspirations or ambitious – when slavery is factored in, it is doubtful that one can justify secession by the southern states. . . . secession cannot be justified if it is combined with the evil of imposing the act on unwilling third parties, no matter what its ultimate motivation. Thus, however flawed Lincoln was, he was a good American."

The Cato Institute recently celebrated its twenty-fifth anniversary. Interviewed for the occasion by the Washington Times, Cato President Edward Crane described Cato as "the embodiment of the philosophy of the founders of this country." The Washington Times wrote that Cato "is named after ‘Cato's Letters,’ a series of libertarian pamphlets that helped lay the philosophical foundation for the American Revolution, says its Web site."

It is therefore surprising that the Cato Institute would publish an article that implicitly repudiates the American Revolution as an immoral kidnapping of 500,000 slaves! Great Britain sought support from slaves if they opposed the rebellion. The first emancipation proclamation was Lord Dunmore’s, the Royal Governor of Virginia, in 1775. That his proclamation applied only to slaves "appertaining to Rebels" has a familiar ring. Professor Thomas DiLorenzo in his new book The Real Lincoln, informs us that there was an abolition movement in England as early as 1774. Do Machan/Cato wish to make King George III and Lord Cornwallis our new national heroes, replacing Washington, Jefferson, and Adams?

Not only did the Founding Fathers "kidnap" slaves from Great Britain’s more anti-slavery auspices, but they seceded against the wishes of numerous Loyalists, many of whom fled or were forced to flee, or stayed and were subjected to harsh treatment. (Women were not consulted at all.) In fact, any secession done pursuant to a vote by the majority, will involve a "kidnapping" of sorts of those who voted against secession. This is akin to the coercion of minorities that is a necessary feature of democracy per se. Lincoln and his admirers can hardly complain about such coercion since he was one of modernity’s foremost proponents of majority rule. In fact, he started a war over it, so he said. Of course, it is better to allow a majority in a region to secede than to allow a minority to force them to stay. At least in that event the unhappy minority can have further resort to the principle and precedent of secession and so on until political boundaries are in accord with community sentiment to the fullest extent possible in this world.

It could be argued that the American Revolution did not involve the "kidnapping" of slaves since slavery was not banned in Colonial America. That point does nothing to advance the Machan/Cato position as neither was slavery nationally banned in the United States in 1861. Yes, but the vibes were bad for slavery at that time. Likewise for Colonial slavery. Great Britain banned the slave trade in 1807. The similarities between the Revolution and the War for Southern Independence vis-vis slavery outweigh the differences, which is a problem for those who favor the first and oppose the second. This is no problem, however, for Rothbardians who view them as America’s two just wars. See, Murray Rothbard’s sublime essay, "America’s Two Just Wars: 1775 and 1861," in The Costs of War, John V. Denson, ed.

Merely because Cato’s implied repudiation of the American Revolution is monumentally shocking does not of course prove that it is wrong, so let us deal more directly with the argument on the merits. First, as Lincoln critic extraordinaire DiLorenzo has observed, the Lincoln did not profess to fight the war to end slavery. This is a gloss that has been retroactively superimposed on the four-year long bloodbath. At most, then, Machan/Cato lend Lincoln a moral cover that Lincoln himself eschewed. The moral cover Lincoln himself cited was majoritarianism, which endorses coercion and the "kidnapping" of the minority. The Union itself kidnapped men to fight in its army. They labored in fields under the hot sun like slaves but endured an additional burden: a breeze of bullets.

It is counter-productive and ahistorical to provide a moral justification for a war, after the fact, that is different from that which animated the combatants. Isn’t it obvious that the victors would pursue, not Machan/Cato values and virtues, but the means and ends the actual historical combatants preferred. This is why Professor DiLorenzo’s book, which carefully delineates the philosophy and values of Lincoln, is so valuable. History shows that DiLorenzo is right. Lincoln and the Republican Party believed in big government – the American System: national bank (inflation); high tariffs (protectionism) and internal improvement (corporate welfare). They believed in the majority imposing its will on the minority. They believed in martial force to achieve their goals.

What did we get from 1861–2002? Exactly what Lincoln wanted, and Machan opposes, and in huge quantities. Historian Arthur Ekirch observed that the Civil War led to "a decline in [classical] liberalism on all questions save that of slavery. . . " Robert E. Lee, with all his intelligence and insight, could not in 1866 have accurately predicted the long-range consequences of the Civil War unless those consequences were inherent in the philosophy of the victorious party from the beginning: "the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded it."

Machan uses metaphors in describing the Confederacy’s actions regarding slavery, metaphors which are not entirely apt. He variously describes them as being "kidnapped" or held "hostage" by the process of secession. This implies a change in status or change of location that simply did not occur with secession. They were slaves before and after. Perhaps slavery would have withered away under subtle Union pressures. However, the North was making money from slavery and Lincoln promised not "to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists." Perhaps slavery would have withered away under the Confederacy as it did in numerous other countries. The metaphors are inapt for another reason. We need not worry about using force against a kidnapper since the victim doesn’t have to live with him afterwards. The slaves, however, unless they were sent back to Africa as Lincoln wanted, or deported to the North as no one apparently suggested, did have to live with white Southerners afterwards the vast majority of whom did not own slaves. That is why in those circumstances there was a real value to pursuing a peaceful (albeit rapid) solution to the problem of slavery.

Machan/Cato argue that the existence of slavery in the Confederacy justified a war to stop secession. It will be interesting to see how far, spacially and temporally, we can extend that principle. I take it that, in 1859, Machan/Cato would have favored a war of revolution to overthrow the slave federation known as the United States, whose constitution institutionalized slavery (three-fifths clause; importing slaves allowed until 1808, return of slaves required) and authorized its central government to protect slave states against "insurrection." Slavery existed in fifteen states and the District of Columbia and non-slave states indirectly benefited from slavery by means of a tariff which disproportionately funded the federal government out of taxes collected in the South. I take it that during the first years of the Civil War, while slavery persisted in several Union states, was undisturbed by Union troops in conquered Southern territory, and was not yet constitutionally banned, Machan/Cato would have supported an uprising against the Union to free the slaves. That is a real mind-blower as they used to say in the Sixties.

Even if there is a moral right to use force to free slaves, that right must be exercised carefully and proportionately to the goal that is sought. Force should be threatened prior to being used. Anyone who is aware of an ultimatum to the South of the following form – "You may leave but you must free your slaves and allow them to leave or stay in freedom." – please let me know. Anyone who can demonstrate that after Union troops seized control of slave-holding areas of the South, they thereafter molested former slaveholders not at all, is a better historian than I am.

What ultimately can a natural rights libertarian say about Lincoln, secession and slavery? The South had the right to leave in peace; slavery is and was morally wrong; though force may be rightly used to end slavery – after all other means for ending slavery have failed – such force must be strictly limited to accomplishing that end and must not violate the rights of third parties by means of taxation, conscription or mass murder; the Union’s invasion of the South, involving as it did taxation, inflation, conscription, confiscation, destruction and the mass killing of non-slave holders, and not having been initiated for any libertarian purpose widely understood at the time, must be condemned as a moral outrage; had an effort been made at the time to free slaves throughout the United States (including the District of Columbia, Delaware, Kentucky, Missouri and Maryland) that did not purport to violate the rights of innocent third parties, or accomplish any evil goals such as expanding the power of the central state, libertarians at the time should have supported it; alas, no such movement existed; thus, any attempt to pretend that the Union’s invasion of the South was a moral cause to end slavery and did not have numerous other and evil goals, the accomplishment of which plagues us today, is an absurd exercise involving the libertarian endorsement of illibertarian means and ends then and continuing.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilwar; confederacy; dunmoresproclamation; libertarians; lincoln; secession; whitesupremacists
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1 posted on 06/08/2002 7:06:32 AM PDT by Korth
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To: Korth
Good. Let these retards argue amongst themselves for a while.

modern libertarian revival

LOL.

2 posted on 06/08/2002 7:09:13 AM PDT by Huck
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To: WhiskeyPapa; Ditto; wardaddy
LOL. This article is so stupid I can't stop laughing. It reminds me of the People's Front of Judea in Monty Python's Life of Brian:

STAN:
I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me 'Loretta'.
REG:
What?!
LORETTA:
It's my right as a man.
JUDITH:
Well, why do you want to be Loretta, Stan?
LORETTA:
I want to have babies.
REG:
You want to have babies?!
LORETTA:
It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them.
REG:
But... you can't have babies.
LORETTA:
Don't you oppress me.
REG:
I'm not oppressing you, Stan. You haven't got a womb! Where's the foetus going to gestate?! You going to keep it in a box?!
LORETTA:
[crying]
JUDITH:
Here! I-- I've got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans', but that he can have the right to have babies.
FRANCIS:
Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister. Sorry.
REG:
What's the point?
FRANCIS:
What?
REG:
What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies when he can't have babies?!
FRANCIS:
It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
REG:
Symbolic of his struggle against reality.

3 posted on 06/08/2002 7:16:57 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Huck
Or as is said in another scene:
"Right, this calls for serious discussion!"
4 posted on 06/08/2002 7:43:24 AM PDT by Niagara
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To: Huck
FRANCIS: Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?

REG: He's over there.

P.F.J.: Splitter!


5 posted on 06/08/2002 7:49:23 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Huck;tpaine
Good. Let these retards argue amongst themselves for a while.

Bump for a right thinking individual. :)

6 posted on 06/08/2002 7:53:08 AM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Niagara
LOL. Good one. I'll bet the "editorial" board of lewrockwell operates in much the same way:

LORETTA: New motion?

REG: Completely new motion, eh, that, ah-- that there be, ah, immediate action--

FRANCIS: Ah, once the vote has been taken.

REG: Well, obviously once the vote's been taken. You can't act another resolution till you've voted on it...

JUDITH:

Reg, for God's sake, let's go now!
REG:
Yeah. Yeah.
JUDITH:
Please!
REG:
Right. Right.
FRANCIS:
Fine.
REG:
In the-- in the light of fresh information from, ahh, sibling Judith--
LORETTA:
Ah, not so fast, Reg.
JUDITH:
Reg, for God's sake, it's perfectly simple. All you've got to do is to go out of that door now, and try to stop the Romans' nailing him up! It's happening, Reg! Something's actually happening, Reg! Can't you understand?! Ohhh!
[slam]
REG:
Hm. Hm.
FRANCIS:
Oh, dear.
REG:
Hello. Another little ego trip for the feminists.
LORETTA:
What?
FRANCIS:
[whistling]
REG:
Oh, sorry, Loretta. Ahh, oh, read that back, would you?

7 posted on 06/08/2002 7:57:54 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Korth
The Cato institute has been doing its best to repudiate libertarian ideas lately. The idea that secession was in essence "kidnapping" is silly. In order to believe that theory you have to assume that the slaves were somehow being taken away from the Union. The Union didn't want the slaves and Lincoln was not interested in freeing the slaves. He was attempting to keep the union together for economic reasons.
8 posted on 06/08/2002 8:16:14 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Huck
Libertarianism and the WBTS on the same thread....not me. Most of what I see from Lew Rockwell aggravates me period. I am not real big on self derived morality although I am cognizant of liberties. It is possible to be a Conservative with libertarian "ideals" and still be practical and also to believe that morality should be grounded in God. Don't take me wrong, I'm not terribly pious but I know "what time it is".
9 posted on 06/08/2002 8:51:08 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
Don't take me wrong, I'm not terribly pious but I know "what time it is".

Does anybody really know what time it is?

Does anybody really care?

10 posted on 06/08/2002 8:57:34 AM PDT by strela
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To: strela
They have a reunion tour on going. Wasn't that song about an acid trip?
11 posted on 06/08/2002 9:06:44 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Huck
LOL!

History shows that DiLorenzo is right. Lincoln and the Republican Party believed in big government – the American System: national bank (inflation); high tariffs (protectionism) and internal improvement (corporate welfare). They believed in the majority imposing its will on the minority. They believed in martial force to achieve their goals.

The Confederates themselves believed in "the majority imposing its will on the minority." They also clearly "believed in martial force to achieve their goals." We don't know enough to decide how big government would be if they'd won, because they did not win. It's easy to postulate some Jeffersonian libertarian tradition, but in fact, "Jeffersonian Democrats" down through the years have supported some very repressive or statist measures.

This is "do it yourself" history that severs ideas, facts and myths from their historical context to combine them as the author sees fit. Ostrowski ignores what was possible at the time and what was at issue. He doesn't so much reach a conclusion logically as impose one arbitrarily. He flirts with pacifism and anarchism to attack the Union but doesn't ask the same questions or make the same reproaches where the Confederacy is concerned. Ostrowski excuses in the Confederates what he attacks in Unionists and what he would also attack in a slave rebellion.

Ostrowski does remind me more than a little of Monty Python's idiot, Mr Gumby. "My brain hurts"

12 posted on 06/08/2002 9:19:03 AM PDT by x
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To: shuckmaster
fyi
13 posted on 06/08/2002 10:34:46 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Demidog
The South was trying to take slaves out of US jursidiction, which probably would have meant prolonging their bondage. The Civil war was not primarily about ending slavery but this was nonetheless a, to some extent unstated, secondary objective without which far fewer northerners would have been willing to fight.

By comparison in the War of Independance slavery was a very minor issue. Britain may have had it's abolition society by 1774 but it was hardly government policy by 1776. Had the revolution been delayed until 1807 then slavery would have been a major issue & the balance of right would have shifted to the British side. Equally had it been delayed that long it is unlikely that the northeren colonies would, by then, have supported an independance joined to slaveholding states.

14 posted on 06/08/2002 11:33:00 AM PDT by kettle belly
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To: wardaddy
Libertarianism and the WBTS on the same thread....not me.

Get used to it. They are your natural allies (as if libertarians weren't marginalized enough already.) Actually, I am glad neo-secessionist-confederate-Lincoln-haters and libertarians are miscegenated. Kills two birds.

15 posted on 06/08/2002 12:32:40 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Huck
Well, I guess I'll cling exclusively to my not terribly- libertarian conservative southern defending ideology on my own.
16 posted on 06/08/2002 1:47:29 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: x
What's wrong with the majority ruling within reason? I hope if conservatives ever become the majority here that we squash the liberal ideology and reverse the tide of the culture war.
17 posted on 06/08/2002 2:03:00 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Huck
It's amazing to me to see people pushing for their morality (that doesn't interfere with the liberty of another) to be imposed on those who disagree by force.

Then act suprised and disgusted when those enforcing the law interpret the morality in another way and the ones who pushed for the law initially are then disenfranchised.

Slavery is wrong. The North did not want to end slavery due to its immorality, it was due to the fact that the paid workers could not compete with those who were slaves.

The Federal Government was wrong...the South had the Right to sucede just like it had the right to ascede.
18 posted on 06/08/2002 3:14:00 PM PDT by borntodiefree
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To: borntodiefree
Slavery is wrong.

Why?

19 posted on 06/08/2002 3:21:55 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Huck
I'll rephrase. Slavery can only be condoned for the payment of a crime and possibly a tort. There is also nothing wrong with indentured servitude.

However, taking ones person life and taking their liberties when they have violated no ones elses is evil and violated the very cannon of a free society and even more so, God's Law.
20 posted on 06/08/2002 3:25:52 PM PDT by borntodiefree
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