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Child centers balk at policy: Providers worry that telling parents of workers' past crimes violates
sacbee.com ^ | Thursday, April 4, 2002 | Jennifer K. Morita -- Bee Staff Writer

Posted on 04/04/2002 2:34:17 PM PST by let freedom sing

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:34:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Some Sacramento area child-care providers are questioning Gov. Gray Davis' emergency regulations forcing them to tell parents if anyone working in or around their facilities was ever convicted of a crime.

"I have to inform every parent in my school, whether I have someone who was convicted of shoplifting 15 years ago, or someone who got caught with marijuana when they were 19," said Julie Jenkins, director of Caring Connection Children's Center in West Sacramento.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: crime; criminalrecords; daycare
But Sacramento attorney Jeanne Vance, who is expecting her first child and is on waiting lists at four child-care centers, said she trusts the system.

"I presume the laws are set up in such a way that anyone who would endanger children, or would be called into question, would be weeded out," Vance said. "I don't know that I necessarily want to weed through all the rest of this stuff."

This MTB has read all the "PC" weed books, and stocked up on plenty of Campbell's Canned Liberal Motherhood.

1 posted on 04/04/2002 2:34:17 PM PST by let freedom sing
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To: elkgrovedan
another davis <))) ping
2 posted on 04/04/2002 2:36:29 PM PST by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
One of the things I don't understand. If I am an alcoholic, and have killed 'x' people due to my drunk driving ... and I serve my time; I may live next door to you, and you are not made aware of my past(unless I chose to disclose it). If I have a burgulary record, rape, wife-beating, car theft, vandalism, forgery, kidnapping, extortion, counterfieting, drug smuggling, car theft, shoplifting (ad nauseum) and have served my time .... no one will alert the neighborhod of my background, should I move next door.

But, if I had sex with a minor, the neighborhood will be alerted, despite the fact that I have served my time. The punishment is unending. What's more, there have been incidents in LA where innocent people have been beaten and killed because they lived where a child-molester 'used to' live ... and the police records were not up-to-date.

I am not a child molester, have not done so, and will not do so in the future. But I do take issue with publishing crimes that may be decades old. Either kill the vermin, or set him free. I prefer to death, personally ... but the point remains that 'he paid his debt'.

3 posted on 04/04/2002 2:53:00 PM PST by Hodar
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To: let freedom sing
Simple solution - keep your kids out of daycare altogether.
4 posted on 04/04/2002 3:34:36 PM PST by Mygirlsmom
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To: Hodar
The punishment is unending.

Tell that to the child (whose suffering usually continues long after the abuser dies)

5 posted on 04/04/2002 4:32:16 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: let freedom sing
"I think what we're going to see happening is a whole lot of people resigning as opposed to being humiliated," said Vicars.

All the more reason to inform the parents. This is much like the scandal going on in the Church now ---covering up past crimes of people who are working around kids. Time for the Church and the Society to stop protecting criminals.

6 posted on 04/04/2002 5:41:05 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Hodar
A California Davis pre-election trick, but valid never the less.

What makes you think that "paying a criminal penalty" for a crime somehow gives you a clean slate? It is always on your record.Many people can and do change.People can not change what they did in their past.That is a given.

Don't expect everyone to forgive and forget a criminal act,just because the courts assigned a penalty.Believe it or not, most people have never seen the inside of a jail cell.

If you have a past that includes a criminal record, do you really think your future is not,or should not, be impacted?

7 posted on 04/04/2002 5:43:12 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Mygirlsmom
A wonderfull sollution!In a perfect world,the only one that makes sence!

In the real world,which a lot of people deal with daily,childcare decisions are a fact of life.

You just may want to stop being so supercillious and acknowledge that there is a reality for many, many families that does not mirror your perfect situation.I hope you are never put in the same position,whether by death or divorce.

8 posted on 04/04/2002 5:55:41 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom
yep! divorced here (19 years ago) and had no other choice BUT to use child care. parents did not agree with my choice of a husband, so when kids came along, they literally moved 500 miles away and washed their hands of the whole situation. actually had kids 3 years after being married (no premarital hoo haw here!) ex-hubby did not want a kid (these things DO happen; even with birth control), so he left and fought child support all the way. had to earn a living somehow with my spendiferous high school education (which nowadays guarantees me an interview at micky dees; you need an associates to run the register). i guess people would be happier had i stayed home with kiddies and lived off the gov't teat?
9 posted on 04/04/2002 7:11:27 PM PST by bandlength
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To: bandlength
I hear you.Got your back on this topic.I depend on privately paid childcare in order to support my small family.I spend more on childcare than rent.I choose life.But I am still a "really bad person", according to the RINO's on this site.What do the perfect people expect happens when a single mother chooses life?Or an abandoned wife keeps her family together?I have yet to win millions in the LOTTO, nor has anyone ever offered any financial support.

At some point, people will agree there is a need for decent child care if we are going to continue to villify women who refuse to be "welfare" statistics.Under various circumstances, a lot of women will face the same situation, through no fault of their own.I have seen this to be more the norm than the exception.With a more than 50% divorce rate in the US, I will sit back and be heartily amused by the "perfect people" responces.there but for the grace of God......

10 posted on 04/04/2002 8:13:32 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Hodar
Registered sex offenders should never consider that "they've done their time"-- unless they are given a full pardon. At this point-- it should be clear to sex offenders, that our society does not tolerate these offenses-- the consequences evident, these crimes continue because our society does not demand a "cure."

The public is given to understand that they are never safe where offenders are present. While some haters may take the law into their own hands-- and harrass or kill an offender, the offender is entitled to the same justice by which they were judged.

11 posted on 04/05/2002 9:33:59 AM PST by let freedom sing
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