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If You Support or Sign Unconstitional Legislation, You are a Traitor
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Posted on 03/21/2002 8:14:17 AM PST by Sir Gawain

The time has passed for allowing the desecration of the U.S. Constitution to continue. There are traitors among us. There are politicians right now who would make themselves kings if there were means to do it, and their attack on the spirit of our country is no longer cloaked in secrecy. Now is not the time to say, "How did we get here?" Now is the time to say, "How do we get back to where we should be?" Make no mistake—we as Americans are to blame for repeatedly voting these traitors into office—and now it is our duty to fix what we screwed up.

I will vote for politicians with which I do not agree one hundred percent, however, I will NOT vote for any politician that is diametrically opposed to any principle of the Founding Fathers. What would George Washington or Thomas Jefferson think of the attacks on the Second Amendment, and now the attack on the First with this so-called "campaign finance reform"? What would the Founders think of Americans that continuously voted these traitors into office? Who would have dared approach President Washington with a bill attempting to regulate firearms or speech, or any other God-given freedom?

Here is the list of treasonous bastards that voted for CFR:

From the Senate:

YEAs --- 60
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Miller (D-GA)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Thompson (R-TN)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
Warner (R-VA)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Wyden (D-OR)

From the House:

--- AYES    240 ---
Abercrombie Green (TX) Napolitano
Ackerman Greenwood Neal
Allen Grucci Oberstar
Andrews Gutierrez Obey
Baca Hall (OH) Olver
Baird Harman Ortiz
Baldacci Hastings (FL) Osborne
Baldwin Hill Ose
Barrett Hinchey Owens
Bass Hinojosa Pallone
Becerra Hoeffel Pascrell
Bentsen Holden Pastor
Bereuter Holt Payne
Berkley Honda Pelosi
Berman Hooley Petri
Berry Horn Phelps
Bishop Houghton Platts
Blagojevich Hoyer Pomeroy
Blumenauer Inslee Price (NC)
Boehlert Israel Quinn
Bonior Jackson (IL) Ramstad
Bono Jackson-Lee (TX) Rangel
Borski Jefferson Reyes
Boswell John Rivers
Boyd Johnson (CT) Rodriguez
Brady (PA) Johnson (IL) Roemer
Brown (FL) Johnson, E. B. Ros-Lehtinen
Brown (OH) Jones (OH) Ross
Capito Kanjorski Rothman
Capps Kaptur Roybal-Allard
Capuano Kennedy (RI) Rush
Cardin Kildee Sabo
Carson (IN) Kilpatrick Sanchez
Carson (OK) Kind (WI) Sanders
Castle Kirk Sandlin
Clay Kleczka Sawyer
Clayton Kucinich Schakowsky
Clement LaFalce Schiff
Clyburn Lampson Serrano
Condit Langevin Shays
Conyers Lantos Sherman
Costello Larsen (WA) Simmons
Coyne Larson (CT) Skelton
Cramer LaTourette Slaughter
Crowley Leach Smith (MI)
Cummings Lee Smith (WA)
Davis (CA) Levin Snyder
Davis (FL) Lewis (GA) Solis
Davis (IL) LoBiondo Spratt
DeFazio Lofgren Stark
DeGette Lowey Stenholm
Delahunt Lucas (KY) Strickland
DeLauro Luther Stupak
Deutsch Lynch Tanner
Dicks Maloney (CT) Tauscher
Dingell Maloney (NY) Taylor (MS)
Doggett Markey Thompson (CA)
Dooley Mascara Thune
Doyle Matheson Thurman
Edwards Matsui Tierney
Engel McCarthy (MO) Towns
Eshoo McCarthy (NY) Turner
Etheridge McCollum Udall (CO)
Evans McDermott Udall (NM)
Farr McGovern Upton
Fattah McHugh Velazquez
Ferguson McIntyre Visclosky
Filner McKinney Walsh
Foley McNulty Wamp
Ford Meehan Waters
Frank Meek (FL) Watson (CA)
Frelinghuysen Meeks (NY) Watt (NC)
Frost Menendez Waxman
Ganske Millender-McDonald Weiner
Gephardt Miller, George Weldon (PA)
Gilchrest Mink Wexler
Gilman Moore Wolf
Gonzalez Moran (VA) Woolsey
Gordon Morella Wu
Graham Nadler Wynn

And finally, if it is signed:

President George W. Bush

Article VI of the U.S Constitution states:

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Anyone that supports or signs unconstitutional legislation is pissing on the graves of the Founding Fathers.

Anyone that supports or signs unconstitutional legislation is pissing on the graves of the Revolutionary War veterans that fought and died for the dream that is embodied in the Constitution.

Anyone that supports or signs unconstitutional legislation is a traitor, and should be dealt with as such.

Thomas Jefferson:
"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground; That `all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people.' To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specifically drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition." Thomas Jefferson: Opinion, February 15, 1791

"On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p 322

George Washington, The Man Who Could Have Been King


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1 posted on 03/21/2002 8:14:17 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: *bang_list; travis mcgee; squantos; harpseal; noumenon; sit-rep; Victoria Delsoul; tpaine; OWK...
Hey, I get to rant sometimes too. :-D
2 posted on 03/21/2002 8:15:37 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
Rant on! I also have some very serious concerns about the constitutionality of CFR and do not support it. Is it "treasonous" to vote for it, however? If there is a clear and definitive usurpation of the constitution, then yes. Is that the situation in this case? Many people say know give the Supreme Court's ruling in Buckley v. Valeo and progeny. Does this excuse congressman from abiding by their constitutional oath, however? Not in my opinion. If they have doubts about the constitutionality of CFR (and most should), then it should not be passed.
4 posted on 03/21/2002 8:23:40 AM PST by TaxMe
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To: Sir Gawain
Constitutionality has yet to be determined by the Supreme Court.
5 posted on 03/21/2002 8:24:01 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Sir Gawain
Nice work, Gawain.

You realize, of course, that opposing Unconstitutional Legislation on principle makes you"politically naive" among many in this forum.




6 posted on 03/21/2002 8:25:53 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Wolfie
Anyone with a third grade education can see when something is blatantly a violation. I was also ranting about the socialist traitors that sign anti-2A bills.
7 posted on 03/21/2002 8:26:31 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
Good show, SG -- I've saved this data to disk for future reference. The list just keeps growing all the time.

For what it's worth, I wrote a letter to the editor this morning just to get it off my chest, and mailed it to five local newsrags here on the gulf coast of Florida. I post it below in case anyone wants to copy it and send it to their own local papers. Feel free to adapt it as y'all see fit:

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So, the Senate has approved the so-called "Campaign Finance Reform" bill by a vote of 60-40, after the House of Representatives passed it by a vote of 240-189. Florida's own two Senators, Bob Graham and Bill Nelson, signed it. It should come as no surprise, really. Once people obtain positions of power, it only stands to reason that they will alter the game to assure that they remain there. This also explains why the mainstream media has almost universally supported this, since this bill gives those agencies almost complete domination of election information thirty to sixty days prior to an election.

You have to love the way that politicians can work the language. "Campaign finance reform" sounds so much better than "incumbent protection act", doesn't it?

Let it be known right here and right now that every one of the 249 members of the House of Representatives and 60 members of the Senate have acted in deliberate and direct violation of the Oaths of Office, which states that those who hold office in the federal legislature shall "support and defend the Constitution of the United States". The First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, which is the Supreme Law of the Land, begins with "Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech". What part of "Congress shall make no law" don't these "educated" people understand?

It also seems that no one perceives the supreme irony that this bill embodies -- that our so-called "leaders" must pass a federal law to supposedly keep themselves honest? At the very least, this bill is a vote of no confidence against themselves. What will become of all this is quite uncertain. The law of unintended consequences looms large in this corrupt and blatantly unconstitutional piece of legislature.


8 posted on 03/21/2002 8:27:07 AM PST by Joe Brower
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To: Sir Gawain
Hey, rant all you want, if it makes you feel better. The bottom line is that matters of constitutionality are decided by 9 life-time political appointees.
9 posted on 03/21/2002 8:28:16 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Sir Gawain
Already posted here genius.
10 posted on 03/21/2002 8:29:07 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Wolfie
We as a people also have the power to make sure a trip to the Supreme Court is never needed.
11 posted on 03/21/2002 8:29:28 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Wolfie
The bottom line is that matters of constitutionality are decided by 9 life-time political appointees.

Don't forget about the constitutional reset button as well.

12 posted on 03/21/2002 8:30:50 AM PST by Centurion2000
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To: Wolfie
Constitutionality has yet to be determined by the Supreme Court.

Are you suggesting that We The People are unable to read and understand a blatant Constitutional violation? Whether SCOTUS rules for or against this bilge, its still un-Constitutional. And We The People have the ultimate say in that. Period.

13 posted on 03/21/2002 8:31:33 AM PST by Lumberjack
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To: Lumberjack
I'm not suggesting anything. I'm telling you how it is. I don't like it any better than you do, but the fact is, the damn thing isn't worth the paper its written on when 9 people, accountable to no one, are the final arbiters of its meaning.
14 posted on 03/21/2002 8:34:02 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: TaxMe
If there is a clear and definitive usurpation of the constitution, then yes. Is that the situation in this case?

"Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech..."

Looks pretty clear to me! Of course, unlike all Supreme Court judges (since the middle of the 20th century, anyway) I can actually read the Constitution.

15 posted on 03/21/2002 8:36:28 AM PST by Mark Bahner
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To: Wolfie
when 9 people, accountable to no one, are the final arbiters of its meaning.

Ahh, got it. I think you missed my reference, though, that they in fact do not have ultimate say on Constitutionality of any law. We do. Check out the Amendment list just after the 1st. We hold the the ace, the left and right baeren and can just about loner their butts if they fail to interpret the Constitution correctly (Euker reference, for my fellow Ohioans). This isn't a "grey area", and we are all quite capable of seeing it as the gross violation of the 1st Amendment that it is.

16 posted on 03/21/2002 8:39:16 AM PST by Lumberjack
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To: Joe Brower
For what it's worth, I wrote a letter to the editor this morning just to get it off my chest,...

And a masterful letter it is.

17 posted on 03/21/2002 8:41:40 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: KC Burke
Yes, excellent letter.
18 posted on 03/21/2002 8:46:15 AM PST by Mark Bahner
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To: Wolfie
Wolfie said: 'Hey, rant all you want, if it makes you feel better. The bottom line is that matters of constitutionality are decided by 9 life-time political appointees."

Only if we consent.

19 posted on 03/21/2002 8:48:37 AM PST by William Tell
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To: Lumberjack
The politicans play the version with the "bug" tho. It trumps everything, even the Constitution and BoR
20 posted on 03/21/2002 8:48:39 AM PST by steve50
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