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Russia: Bear Trap Alliance?
newsmax.com ^ | Wednesday, Sept. 26, 2001 | Steve Montgomery & Steve Farrell

Posted on 10/08/2001 3:36:25 AM PDT by lavaroise

This is Part 2 in a series on the terrorist threat out of Russia – a strange ally.

Part 1. Politically Correct Butchers of the Twentieth Century
Part 2. Russia: Bear Trap Alliance?
Part 3. Russia: Ally of U.S. or bin Laden?
Part 4. A Model Potemkin Village

Part 5. Out of the Rubble - The New SOviet Union

Read Part 1 of our look at Terrorist Russia.

Frenchman Alexis de Tocqueville, in his 1835 classic, "Democracy in America," displayed remarkable insight regarding the nature and destiny of Russia, as contrasted with the nature and destiny of the United States.

His words were prophetic:

There are, at the present time, two great nations in the world which seem to tend towards the same end, although they started from different points: I allude to the Russians and the Americans. Both of them have grown up unnoticed; and whilst the attention of mankind was directed elsewhere, they have suddenly assumed a most prominent place amongst the nations; and the world learned their existence and their greatness at almost the same time.

All other nations seem to have nearly reached their natural limits, and only to be charged with the maintenance of their power; but these are still in the act of growth; all the others are stopped, or continue to advance with extreme difficulty; these are proceeding with ease and with celerity along a path to which the human eye can assign no term. The American struggles against the natural obstacles which oppose him; the adversaries of the Russian are men; the former combats the wilderness and savage life; the latter, civilization with all its weapons and its arts: the conquests of the one are therefore gained by the ploughshare; those of the other by the sword. The Anglo-American relies upon personal interest to accomplish his ends, and gives free scope to the unguided exertions and common-sense of the citizens; the Russian centers all the authority of society in a single arm; the principal instrument of the former is freedom; of the latter servitude. Their starting-point is different, and their courses are not the same; yet each of them seems to be marked out by the will of Heaven to sway the destinies of half the globe. (1)

Alexis de Tocqueville was correct. And although we would like to hope de Tocqueville's words are not irreversible regarding Russia, yet as things now stand, who can dispute their truth?

Now, you may be asking yourself why we bring this forecast out of the woodwork in the midst of our war on terrorism. Simply because the Bush administration has begun to forge an unholy alliance with Russia in the war on terrorism, and we submit that de Tocqueville's insight is a far more accurate guide relative to Russia today than the blind, undermining, pro-new world order counsel the Bush administration receives daily from his Council on Foreign Relations-dominated State Department and national security staff. There is evidence aplenty that this is so.

We Warned You First

This column has warned repeatedly over the past two weeks that the United States was planning to enroll the No. 1 sponsor of international terrorism, Russia, as an ally in our war against terrorism. Incredible as it seems, we are now seeing the same mistakes repeated that we made during our "alliance" with Joe Stalin at the end of WWII. Of course, we all know where that "friendship" ended.

Here's the game plan.

In Stage 1, which is already taking place, Russia has armed, at the request of the United States, anti-Taliban militants and opened up her bases as a staging ground for the U.S. military.

In Stage 2 expect a permanent Russian occupation force in Afghanistan, as well as a healthy flow of U.S. aid, U.S. technology, and U.S. security secrets spilling into Russia to assist it with its internal battle against "terrorism" (opposition).

In Stage 3 – which is a constant – expect our aid and shared secrets to be used against the United States and free people everywhere, even as the old Soviet Union re-unites under the leadership of Mother Russia.

Reminder of How Russia Uses U.S. Aid

On Christmas Day, 1979, the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan with trucks and armored personnel carriers built at the colossal Kama River "truck" plant. A dozen American firms, including Ford Motor Company, Glidden Machine & Tool Company, Gulf and Western Industries, Honeywell, the Swindell-Dressler Company, Warner & Swazey, the Ingersoll Milling Machine Company and the E.W. Bliss Company, were authorized by the U.S. government to supply the Soviets with technology and equipment needed to build and operate the plant.

U.S. officials responsible for this fiasco? Henry Kissinger, national security adviser to Nixon; George Shultz, then Nixon's treasury secretary, later Ronald Reagan's secretary of state; and William J. Casey, then head of the Export-Import Bank, which provided $153 million. Financing was arranged by David Rockefeller's Chase Manhattan Bank. Kissinger, Shultz, Casey and Rockefeller were all members of the Council on Foreign Relations. (2)

Twenty-two years later, the Russians will invade Afghanistan again, this time not just with technology paid for in the USA, but with American soldiers by their side.

Soviet Gulags Still in Business

Still believe the misinformation you've been fed in the establishment press that times have changed in Russia? Keep following this column, for the rest of the story.

The Aug. 8 edition of The Scotsman reports: "Russia is continuing to operate Gulag-style labor camps where thousands of North Koreans toil under grim conditions. ... The camps supposedly closed down with the end of communism, but reports in Moscow say they continue to exist, with North Korea using the system as a way to pay off its 5.5 million [pound] debt to Russia." (3)

The Sept. 10 New American adds: "The camps were supposedly shut down in 1993 – that is, two years after Communism "ended" in Russia. According to an Amnesty International report from the early 1990s, approximately 30,000 North Koreans were interned in camps scattered across the Siberian Wilderness, sleeping in primitive barracks and clad in prison garb. (4)

"For disobedience there were severe penalties," observed The Scotsman. "Some prisoners were locked into all-body plaster casts or wrapped in chains."

If this is how modern "reformed" Russia treats its communist comrades, can you conjure a guess as to what they have in store for their American "allies" in the war against terrorism?

Who Will Fight the Terrorists – The Russian Mafia?

We are trying to figure out just who in Russia would do the best job of fighting the "terrorists" which, they say, now "plague" the old Soviet Empire. Or who can we trust with infusions of U.S. dollars, technology and insider security information to help them with their "holy" work? We've settled on the Russian Mob. After all, they have come to be known as the most brutal, vicious, efficient criminal network in the world – they know how to think like terrorists. And besides, they run things in Russia, own most of the property, are one with the KGB (now FSB), and have probably been active in training the terrorists – so who could hide from them?

They are also the same dedicated criminals and communists who have always run Russia.

In an April 1994 interview published in the International Herald Tribune, Georgian Mafia leader Otari Kvantrishvili confessed: "They write that I am the Mafia's godfather. It was Vladimir Lenin who was the real organizer of the Mafia and who set up the criminal state."

In 1995, former Lithuanian Vice President Algirdas Katkus stated that although "Westerners believe that the Mafia is the product of post-Communism ... in reality it is organized, staffed, and controlled by the KGB." (5)

Yuri Maltsev, former senior adviser to Mikhail Gorbachev, stated in a May 1996 interview: "Russia has become the criminal capital of the world. In Russia today, the organized Mafia and the government are one and the same thing. They're two hands of the same ruling elite." This state of affairs began with the founding of the Soviet state. "The Soviet state security apparatus was essentially staffed by criminals collected from Russian prisons," Maltsev recalls. "In short, you had a criminal state using criminals to enforce what it called the law." (6)

Comforting Afterthought

The United States has been active, since the "fall" of Communism, conducting joint training exercises involving the KGB (FSB) and our FBI in order to better fight organized crime. Bill Clinton was the chief instigator of this folly. Crime rates haven't lowered in Russia, but perhaps the Russians learned a bit more about U.S. security procedures and shared that information with their terrorist friends in the field.

Blind Partisanship

On Aug. 3, 2001, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice unveiled plans to share missile defense technology, exchange defense plans, participate in joint warning exercises, and grant permission for Russia to purchase American-made military hardware.

Lest we forget, when Clinton allowed such sensitive secrets to get into the hands of the communists in Red China, we called it a treasonous and impeachable action. Nothing like blind partisanship to hush the crowd.

Recommended Actions

Before we move one step closer toward a "holy alliance" with Russia, we recommend that the Bush administration, Congress and all of America meditate upon the condition and nature of a bear, and stop pretending it to be that of a lamb. Tell your congressman, senators and president to 'Just say no to Russia!'

Contact Steve & Steve at StiffRightJab@aol.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: communism; communists; military; obama; putinsbuttboys; russia; surrendermonkeys; ukraine
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Note what Toqueville said, it is timeless. It is time America started to focus on the values of Lincoln.
1 posted on 10/08/2001 3:36:25 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: lavaroise
Values of Lincoln? You mean the ones that caused him to dissolve by force the duly elected legislature of Maryland and took away the civil liberties of hundreds of citizens? Or how about the ones that set up military courts in place of civilian ones? No thank you!
2 posted on 10/08/2001 4:14:57 AM PDT by wjeanw
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To: wjeanw
Values of Lincoln? You mean the ones that caused him to dissolve by force the duly elected legislature of Maryland and took away the civil liberties of hundreds of citizens? Or how about the ones that set up military courts in place of civilian ones? No thank you!

He gave our liberties back after the war. It's people like that who are on peace and civil liberties welfare who end up inviting terrorists and separatists on US soil, because they are too damn lazy to raise a finger to secure the nation.

Sure, sending a few boys out there to get whacked is all fine and dandy, but when it comes to give up a little liberty to conduct a fight like Lincoln requested, the lazy welfare addicted Americans come whining like a bunch of trailer park trash under the guise of peace marches, libertarianism, liberals, democrats, or even college future wall streeters of the 60s who don't want to be drafted.

You are all a bunch of selfish welfare addicted leftists.

Give me Liberty give me death.

3 posted on 10/08/2001 4:55:25 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: wjeanw
I hadn't realized that de Tocqueville had written about Russia, but if the above excerpt is representative, it sounds like his countryman Custine, who wrote another hit piece on Russia in the mid 1800's. I guess you couldn't expect writers from post-Revolutionary France to be interested in the fact that Russia was the LARGEST CHRISTIAN EMPIRE IN THE WORLD, with free settlements and churches stretching thousands of miles to the Pacific Ocean and beyond (counting Alaska). The item about America expanding by the ploughshare and Russia by the sword totally ignores that the long history of expansion was very similar in both cases (considering the native popoulation density was very slight both in the Great Plains and in Siberia). Note that the Russian Empire didn't push the natives of Siberia (Ostyaks, Buryats, Komi, etc) onto small undesireable reservations as was done here. They just stayed where they were and paid tribute (as they had paid tribute to some previous empire in most cases).

This is just to say that if the NewsMax article bases its premise on such a misleading quote, we can be justified in mistrusting the entirety of their analysis.

4 posted on 10/08/2001 5:56:01 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
The main thrust of this article, to me, is the danger of having an overly centralized system of government. There is nothing that encourages misconduct more than a bureacracy that gets so far from the citizens it is supposed to serve, that it becomes untouchable.
5 posted on 10/08/2001 6:20:04 AM PDT by meenie
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
Note that the Russian Empire didn't push the natives of Siberia (Ostyaks, Buryats, Komi, etc) onto small undesireable reservations as was done here.

It has to be remembered that Siberia was, for the most part, not settled by Russians so there would be no need to push the native peoples off their lands, as was done in this country. Not to excuse what Americans did, just not to give the Russians undue credit.

6 posted on 10/08/2001 6:46:19 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: lavaroise
bttt
8 posted on 10/08/2001 7:10:20 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: wildandcrazyrussian , wjeanw
This is just to say that if the NewsMax article bases its premise on such a misleading quote, we can be justified in mistrusting the entirety of their analysis.

All analysises, ever so thorough, are based on axiomatic premises that cannot be proven. The key is to be open minded and be ready to scrap the analysis in case the axioms and assumptions were wrong.

9 posted on 10/08/2001 7:19:31 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: wjeanw
Lets not forget a few other things about Lincoln. He did not free the slaves. He freed the slaves in the rebel territories, which were a recognized independent nation. Those slaves in territories under Union control, to include Maryland and eastern NC were still slaves. Jefferson Davis freed the slaves. And lets not forget about releasing Sherman and his little walk about the south. As for freedoms, modern day post-communist Russia is freer in many ways then modern day Politically Correct transitional to authoriatrian rule America.
10 posted on 10/08/2001 8:32:45 AM PDT by Stavka2
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To: lavaroise
Yes it's always so great to give up those liberties...they'll give them back to you, sure will, after 70 years of Communism. Only a fool surrenders any liberty...or didn't you know what your own founding father Benjamin Franklin said: "Those who give up liberty for security will have neither."
11 posted on 10/08/2001 8:34:41 AM PDT by Stavka2
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
No one wants to mention that after 1861 all serfs were freed and that by 1914 almost all farmers were free farmers and owned their own land, thanks to the genius Stalipen, why the communists assassinated him. Even in death he crossed himself with his last strength. Newsmax is a sensationalist, anti Russian garbage that writes half truths at best. ie: Ebola break out in Afghanistan. Crap reporting by a bunch of tin hat psychos.

A few things about Custine. He was such a flaming homosexual that he was ousted out of French society. The reasons for his travels and sensationalist writings was to keep himself off the street begging. In his racist garbage book, while still in Germany and not yet in Russia, he already starts talking about Russians as Chinese in disguise, about how rude and crude everything is. This before even seeing a square meter of Russia. The best part, and from a French man, is about how bad Russians stink. Funny, we bath every day, have banyas and public baths everywhere and the Frogs just invent perfume.

As for libery, the French should know all about that, they invented the liberty of wiping out whole classes of peoples, the Terror.

12 posted on 10/08/2001 8:41:32 AM PDT by Stavka2
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To: Straight Vermonter
Russians didn't slaughter the mongols or other asians either after we conquered them. Even Yeltsin was part Asian. If we are so horrible like the usual Newsmax caltrap preachs, then why are almost all Indians in Alaska still Orthodox and many still speak Russian? And that's from personal experience of dealing with several Inuets and listening to their stories.
13 posted on 10/08/2001 8:44:38 AM PDT by Stavka2
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To: Stavka2
Just say YES to Russia. A magnificent country and people.
14 posted on 10/08/2001 8:53:36 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Stavka2
Funny, we bath every day, have banyas and public baths everywhere and the Frogs just invent perfume.
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You're great! I'm going to use that one! Also thanks for contributing to my comments.
15 posted on 10/08/2001 9:00:33 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: lavaroise
Sure, sending a few boys out there to get whacked is all fine and dandy, but when it comes to give up a little liberty to conduct a fight like Lincoln requested, the lazy welfare addicted Americans come whining like a bunch of trailer park trash under the guise of peace marches, libertarianism, liberals, democrats, or even college future wall streeters of the 60s who don't want to be drafted.

You are all a bunch of selfish welfare addicted leftists.

Give me Liberty give me death.

Funny, seems to me our Russian friends on this thread seem to understand the concept of liberty much better than you do. Lincoln was hardly a hero from the viewpoint of "liberty". From the viewpoint of federal power, sure, but not from that of liberty.

16 posted on 10/08/2001 9:00:35 AM PDT by jimt
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To: Stavka2
If we are so horrible like the usual Newsmax caltrap preachs, then why are almost all Indians in Alaska still Orthodox and many still speak Russian?

Did I say you were horrible? I don't think so. I merely pointed out that the experience in Siberia differs from that in the American plains.

17 posted on 10/08/2001 9:50:28 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: lavaroise
I am unsure whether the current "the Russians are coming" brigades are just so nostalgic for the Cold War that they can't understand that we won, or whether they suffer from a slavophobia not based on anti-communism. After all Eastern Orthodoxy, which is now again a major social force in Russia as it was in the days when "Holy Russia" would have been near to the truth, is deeply troubling to a lot of Westerners: its existence and history provide evidence against the Roman Catholics' claim to be the original Church, against the protestant's claim to have fixed the Church, and against most freethinkers anti-Christian talking points, which are directed against abuses by the Roman Catholics and the Western European wars of religion.
20 posted on 10/24/2001 8:52:01 AM PDT by The_Reader_David
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