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The Neoconservatives’ Latest Purge
Chronicles ^ | May 2024 | Edward Welsch

Posted on 05/04/2024 10:06:58 AM PDT by Angelino97

When a small group of “America First” House Republicans fought to block Congress from approving a $95 billion package of foreign aid, none of them questioned the aid marked for Israel. The point of disagreement was rather the additional funding for Ukraine, which these dissenters viewed, correctly in my opinion, as a waste of money on a corrupt country in a doomed, faraway struggle that has little to do with American interests.

None of the Republicans questioned the aid to Israel because they know that even the mildest criticism of American support for Israel violates a taboo in American conservative politics and invites one’s blacklisting as an “anti-Semite.”

If any confirmation is needed that this is the unspoken rule on the American right, one may consider the attacks directed over the last few weeks at the online media stars Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, both of whom have challenged the conservative establishment’s stridently held party line. Carlson is under fire from the both the Republican Party establishment and neoconservative commentators like Ben Shapiro, while Owens was fired from the media company Shapiro founded, The Daily Wire.

“My crime is that I do not believe that American taxpayers should have to pay for Israel’s wars or the wars of any other country,” Owens wrote on X after her firing.

Israel is by far the largest recipient of American foreign aid—particularly military aid. After this latest package, Israel will have received $323 billion in aid since its founding, according to the Council for Foreign Relations. Israel has received double the amount provided to the second-largest aid recipient (Egypt), and two-thirds of the aid to Israel is military aid. Given America’s $35 trillion national debt and its growing struggle to pay even the interest on such an enormous amount, Owens’ concerns warrant discussion.

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1 posted on 05/04/2024 10:06:58 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

Why are you so concerned about this when your City is run and inundated with marxists? It is a disgrace to the United States.


2 posted on 05/04/2024 10:12:42 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Angelino97
After this latest package, Israel will have received $323 billion in aid since its founding

Given by a country 34 trillion zillion in debt...National suicide American style.

3 posted on 05/04/2024 10:14:37 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Angelino97

Hopefully, early on when Trump gets into office he will do a quick study of all foreign grants, loans, etc. and revamp the entire program. He can start by dismantling State’s AID office.


4 posted on 05/04/2024 10:21:39 AM PDT by elpadre (m.)
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To: Angelino97

“Israel is by far the largest recipient of American foreign aid—particularly military aid. After this latest package, Israel will have received $323 billion in aid since its founding, according to the Council for Foreign Relations”

We spent nearly 10 times that amount in Afghanistan.
And the don’t count NATO as foreign aid. It’s just money we spend doing the defense of other countries. And that would utterly dwarf Israel.

I’m not for very much of it for anyone. But CFR is pretending it’s a mostly Israeli thing.

CFR is skewed.


5 posted on 05/04/2024 10:28:42 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: DesertRhino

‘Nuff said!

2 HEART WARMING MINUTES!

https://x.com/_johnnymaga/status/1786565713861198256


6 posted on 05/04/2024 10:29:28 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: DesertRhino

Ukraine will soon eclipse the $323 billion sent to Israel. IIRC, they’re halfway there after just a few years.


7 posted on 05/04/2024 10:32:40 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: cowboyusa
I think this is "Chronicles of Culture." A paleoconservative tabloid. The paleoconservatives don't like Jewish Conservatives (the so-called neoconservatives) because they think they took their jobs in the Reagan administration.

The hatred still simmers amongst these paleoconservative characters.

8 posted on 05/04/2024 10:53:56 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Enrique Tarrio? “Remember the prisoners as if chained with them – those who are mistreated…” Hebrew)
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To: Stepan12
The paleoconservatives don't like Jewish Conservatives (the so-called neoconservatives) because they think they took their jobs in the Reagan administration.

Paleocons believe the (formerly Trotskyite) Neocons purged traditional conservatism from the conservative establishment. Which is how Trotskyites operate.

The hatred still simmers amongst these paleoconservative characters.

And Neocons don't hate?

If you're interested in the Paleocon side of the feud, Chronicles goes into it in their first podcast.

9 posted on 05/04/2024 11:10:22 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

America first conservatives are the only true conservatives as far as I am concerned. Neoconservatism is a corruption of true conservatism.


10 posted on 05/04/2024 11:13:40 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: elpadre

Wish he could.

But... The President doesn’t control the budget. Lots of folks, many on here, like to bitch about signing the CRs, etc. It appears that many ignore or don’t know that Pres Trump asked Congress to produce a budget, as it should, and then head to the negotiating table. They never gave him a budget even Republicans had Congress and the White House. They dragged their feet and forced him into a CR/Omnibus situation.

He wanted money for the military and to handle a few other things. He could get what he wanted, but he was going to have give them what they wanted.

Think about it, he pushed for tax cuts. Rather than enshrine them, Congress made them temporary and they’re about to sunset.

He tried to defund public money going to the NGOs that fly illegals to the US. Congress and the NGOs fought back and won. So he, using the authority vested in the office, just reduced the number of visas and refugees allowed in. Doing that caused many of the organizations to lay folks or close up shop.

He got zero help from McConnell and Ryan in the first two years, obstructed him and has put us where we are today.

To think, the same scumbags are re-elected without trying.


11 posted on 05/04/2024 11:21:18 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: jimwatx
America first conservatives are the only true conservatives as far as I am concerned.

100%

12 posted on 05/04/2024 11:27:54 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Angelino97

I’m fine with our support for Israel. Those October 7 terrorists killed around 30 American citizens over there. But I won’t hold it against Owens or Carlson for disagreeing.


13 posted on 05/04/2024 11:30:35 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: Angelino97

Here’s a good explanation of what neoconservatism is:

“AMY GOODMAN: In 2006, you write that George W. Bush said to his father, “What’s a neocon?”

ANDREW COCKBURN: That’s right. One of the rare moments of sort of communication between the two. Bush said to — they were out at Kennebunkport, and Bush Jr. says, “Can I ask you a question? What’s a neocon?” And the father says, “Do you want names or a description?” The President says, “I’ll take a description.” He says, “I’ll give it to you in one word: Israel,”

Daddy - what’s a ‘neocon’?! Ethnic mafia wars is the USA
https://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2007/05/daddy-whats-neocon-ethnic-mafia-wars-is.html


14 posted on 05/04/2024 11:34:48 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Angelino97

“… none of them questioned the aid marked for Israel.”

None of them questioned the aid to Hamas and the Palis, either.


15 posted on 05/04/2024 11:38:53 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: Angelino97

Quote from the article:
None of the Republicans questioned the aid to Israel because they know that even the mildest criticism of American support for Israel violates a taboo in American conservative politics and invites one’s blacklisting as an “anti-Semite.”

A genuinely antisemitic article. To be truthful, it should have read:
“None of the Republicans questioned the aid to Israel because they know that Israel has been attacked by the Fakestinians who slaughtered over 1300 innocent citizens in cold blood and who also kidnapped and are torturing as we speak Israeli and American hostages. .... etcetera....a lot more could be said other than the crap in the article.

In short, there are many many good Americans, especially thinking of most Christians, who do things because they are the moral and proper things to do, without need of being castigated as somehow craven or cowardly or manipulated by some sort of dark, sinister Jewish cabal or “international Jewish conspiracy.” It may further be noted that several of the Congresspeople represent areas where there are very Jewish people in residence, their support base is almost entirely Protestant or Catholic.

Does the author think there are no good American citizens or righteous Christians? The hidden “logic” of the article requires such mistaken assumptions. The article is wrong.


16 posted on 05/04/2024 11:46:41 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: jimwatx

Maybe, maybe not.

Some of the stuff on the internet is too “true” to really be true.

Cockburn’s father was a Communist liar, so maybe it runs in the family.


17 posted on 05/04/2024 11:49:39 AM PDT by x
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To: jimwatx
That's true.

As Neoconservative David Horowitz explained, Neoconservativsm was born during the Six Day War.

Neoconservatives were Leftist Jews who were also fiercely pro-Israel and concerned with Soviet Jewry. But they supported all the left-wing, anti-establishment causes during the Sixties. They opposed traditional, Christian conservative values.

During the Six Day War, these Leftist Jewish Zionists saw their Black Panther allies, all their leftist allies, side with the Palestinians. And they saw Nixon support Israel during the Yom Kippur War.

And so Leftists Jewish Zionists came over to conservatism, primarily to help Israel and Soviet Jewry. But they remained hostile to America as a white Christian culture. They pushed for secularism, open borders, and libertarian morals concerning drugs and sex.

Neoconservatives waged war against traditionalist Russell Kirk types. They purged Joseph Sobran in the 1990s, and tried to purge Pat Buchanan.

They pushed for the Gulf War and the Iraq War, largely to make the Mideast a safer place for Israel.

18 posted on 05/04/2024 11:50:39 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Stepan12
Stepan, what's your last name?

Bandera?


19 posted on 05/04/2024 11:52:52 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: Angelino97

Nixon knew it. Pat Buchanan knew it. Jim Traficant knew it. Tony Soprana knew it.


20 posted on 05/04/2024 12:05:58 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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