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How NATO Powers are Using the U.K.’s World War I Model to Lure Russia into the Next Big Global War
Gateway Pundit ^ | 15 Mar 24 | Leo Holman

Posted on 03/16/2024 2:36:19 PM PDT by delta7

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So, here we are.The Germans are totally spent in war equipment, manpower and equipment….legislation to start the draft….coupled with England’s pitiful, grossly undermanned army of only 57,000 men, they want to go to war with the mighty Russian Federation. Why is the West so intent on suicide?
1 posted on 03/16/2024 2:36:19 PM PDT by delta7
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GLOBOHOMO NEVER RESTS.


2 posted on 03/16/2024 2:41:37 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Krynky doink?)
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Stopped at the second embedded advertisement.


3 posted on 03/16/2024 2:45:26 PM PDT by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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Half advertising and the other half tin foil hat area.


4 posted on 03/16/2024 2:52:24 PM PDT by Grognard49
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If military personnel from France, Poland, Germany are placed in Ukraine, and Russia then attacks one of them, too bad soo sad. It does not trigger the NATO article of responding to an attack. It simple does not apply.

If we have a moron residing in the White House who wants a world war, then they can pretend otherwise, but I think that really could tear open the fabric of the country. Putting the entire country at risk of nuclear attack for no good reason could rip the country open.


5 posted on 03/16/2024 2:52:51 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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From the article:
“Germany knows it is incapable of taking on Russia so it is negotiating a secret deal with the insane leaders of two other European countries, France and Poland, for the very purpose of sending troops into Ukraine separate from NATO, although I do not believe this could truly be done without the acquiescence of Washington and London.

An organization called the Weimar Triangle – composed of France, Germany and Poland – has been in existence since 1991 at the fall of the Soviet Union.

The stated purpose of the Weimar Triangle was to assist Poland’s emergence from Communist rule. It’s strange that it still exists but it may have found a new purpose – instigating World War III with Russia.”

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Here’s the probable scenario where our true enemy is a belligerent faction of NATO itself:

France is intent on getting the USA nuked, because they’re America Last, not first. If it happens, we’ll insist France retaliate for us, instead of retaliating ourselves, because it’ll be undeniably their fault. Russia will be destroyed and so will America and the atheist neopagan fascists, like France and Germany will be ecstatic.

France will, if we don’t get Trump in first, put troops in Ukraine and Russia will defend itself by attacking the head of NATO.


6 posted on 03/16/2024 2:54:49 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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Mark


7 posted on 03/16/2024 2:56:39 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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"So, here we are.The Germans are totally spent in war equipment, manpower and equipment….legislation to start the draft….coupled with England’s pitiful, grossly undermanned army of only 57,000 men, they want to go to war with the mighty Russian Federation. Why is the West so intent on suicide?"

The reptilian Eurotrash leadership thinks that they wil be able to pull in America just like they did in WW1 and WW2 but I believe that they are mistaken. The European 🔩 jobs are wearing out their welcome in America.

8 posted on 03/16/2024 3:00:43 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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It will likely take about a year for the Weimar Triangle nations to build up their military prowess through forced conscription and converting to a wartime economy.

I can’t speak for Poland, but I think it would be a cold day in hell before the pampered populations of Germany and France ever accepted that kind of nonsense.

9 posted on 03/16/2024 3:00:51 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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Pre-World War I Germany Military Planning
- International Encyclopedia of the First World War

EXCERPTS:

The military enjoyed an outstanding social position in Prussia and Germany. The unification of Germany in 1871 had been achieved through military victories, which had significantly increased the reputation of the military in society.Social Darwinism and cultural pessimism had spread throughout Europe and America in the years before the First World War and had also found supporters in the German military.

The General Staff perceived the considerable progress in Russian arms build-up by 1910 as particularly threatening. This real concern was mixed with the topos of the insurmountable opposition between Germanism and Slavism, which presented an ideological exaggeration of the conflict that had been fostered since the Balkan Wars in 1912/13, especially in the German and Russian media.

The decades before the First World War were marked by a rapid change in military technology, in regards to both weapons systems as well as means of transportation and communication. The list of new inventions, some of which were groundbreaking, is long: These include smokeless powder, small-caliber multi-loading rifles, machine guns, Rapid fire field pieces and high explosive grenades, as well as field telephones, motor vehicles and aircraft.

Alfred Graf von Schlieffen (1833-1913) wrote the memorandum, later known as the Schlieffen Plan, the result of many years of deliberation, in December 1905 as a legacy for his successor. In view of the expected war on two fronts, he planned an attack on France via Belgium and the Netherlands whereby the German armies would bypass the French fortress belt. His plan also entailed annihilating the French army southwest of Paris around forty days after mobilising in order to quickly turn the troops towards the East against Russia. Due to geography, a quick victory only seemed possible in France. The second part of the Schlieffen Plan, war on the Eastern Front, was never elaborated.

Concepts of the Navy

In connection to its foreign policy reorientation towards “world politics”, the Reich in 1898 began to massively arm their Imperial Navy (Kaiserliche Marine). Under the influence of Alfred (von) Tirpitz (1849-1930) it was redesigned, not as a cruiser fleet to be operated overseas, but primarily as an ocean-going fleet with battleships destined for the North Sea. The redesign was influenced by a concept of risk (Risikogedanke) developed by Tirpitz and fixed itself on the world’s strongest sea power, Great Britain. The aim was to strengthen the German High Seas Fleet (Hochseeflotte) to such a degree that in the event of a war, the Royal Navy would suffer such losses, that even if it emerged victorious, it would lose its position of dominance at sea. The questionable political calculation behind this strategy assumed that Great Britain would thereby be forced to accept Germany’s foreign policy ambitions.


10 posted on 03/16/2024 3:15:30 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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I can’t speak for Poland, but I think it would be a cold day in hell before the pampered populations of Germany and France ever accepted that kind of nonsense.

Pampered or not, the past hundred or so years would make a call to arms in these countries practically impossible.

Would that Americans had the skepticism towards military conflict that the French and Germans have...

11 posted on 03/16/2024 3:23:11 PM PDT by Captain Walker ("It is infinitely better to have a few good Men, than many indifferent ones." - George Washington)
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Why would you invite war with the world’s largest nuclear arsenal, led by a man who seemingly has no hesitation about using them? This GP stuff is bordering on legal insanity. No one in their right mind wants to start a nuclear war, even with 2024’s reduced stockpiles. The folks who believe this should stop reading NEXUS.


12 posted on 03/16/2024 3:35:56 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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Those poor, pacifist, slow-witted Germans taking the bait and falling into plots that make them declare war and invade other countries. How did we miss this before? The Kaiser and Hitler as men of peace?


13 posted on 03/16/2024 3:36:27 PM PDT by Rockingham (`)
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The Ruzzians are so stultifying stupid that NATO can easily manipulate them and their “Genius” dictator. Ruzzians are retards per this pro-Ruzzian propaganda.


14 posted on 03/16/2024 3:36:40 PM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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Using duplicity, deception and secret alliances, the U.K.’s inner circle of top elites led by Nathaniel Rothschild, King Edward VII, and Lord Alfred Milner backed the German Kaiser into a corner and intentionally set the Germans up to blame them for starting the First World War, when in fact it was the British who provoked the Germans to the point where war was the only option.

Starting a historical analogy with complete horse manure doesn't really work.

As Christopher Clark explains, what set the stage for WWI was Russia's defeat in the Russo-Japanese War. This moved Russia's probing for imperial advance away from East Asia and towards the Balkans, where unbeknownst to the court at St. Petersburg, the Russian ambassador in Belgrade was aiding and conspiring with Serb ultra-nationalists against Austria-Hungary. This would eventual result in the Black Hand assassinating Archduke Ferdinand.

Meanwhile, the French panicked because with Russia defeated, their defensive alliance with Russia seemed on shaky ground. As a consequence, France increased the tempo of its conscription, dramatically increasing the size of its trained reserves. France also made enormous loans to Russia for it to re-equip its armed forces and expand its rail network to deliver them more quickly to an eastern front against Germany.

This, of course, did not go unnoticed in Berlin and made the Germans think they had to strike first and strike quickly against France in the event of hostilities before Russia's vast resources (on paper) could be brought to bear.

The major power with the least to gain and least involvement was actually Great Britain, which had not joined any alliance structure. Unfortunately for them, the British Minister for War had given the French assurances that Britain would come to their aid. He just neglected to inform the Cabinet or Parliament. So when the French ambassador in London met with the British Cabinet upon war breaking out, they were aghast when they heard that the French had moved almost all their Navy to the Med because they expected the Brits to defend the French coast. The first vote for war was "No." Only in the morning did the Cabinet feel that honor required Britain to meet the promise of their Minister for War. That decision cost Britain and the Commonwealth almost 1 million dead.

15 posted on 03/16/2024 3:45:51 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Jim Hoft stretches credulity as a business model, but this one hits a new level.

I recommend Barbara Tuchman's The Guns of August for a more accurate account of the runup to WW1.

16 posted on 03/16/2024 3:46:43 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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Both sides have enough nukes to waste each other a few times over.

Which is why they won't be used.

And if the notion of MAD deterrence is broken, we're all screwed anyway.

17 posted on 03/16/2024 3:47:32 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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King Edward VII, who died in 1910, backed the Kaiser into a corner in 1914 and forced him to invade neutral Belgium?


18 posted on 03/16/2024 4:05:40 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon
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I suppose if Britain had told Germany early enough that the British Empire would definitely go to war if Belgium or France was attacked then there might have been no war, but I don’t see how Britain provoked Germany into war.

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19 posted on 03/16/2024 4:12:13 PM PDT by x
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If the Germans had stayed out of Belgium. The UK government would have had a had a hard time getting the UK to go to war.


20 posted on 03/16/2024 4:15:04 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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