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Ukraine says it has sunk a Russian Black Sea patrol ship near Crimea
NBC News.com ^ | March 5, 2024 | Yuliya Talmazan

Posted on 03/05/2024 7:07:44 PM PST by Timber Rattler

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To: kiryandil

What did happen in krynky, told weeks ago it was recaptured?
What t-14 and su-57 doink?
Is it the t-90 super breakthrough tank or turret toss tank, two abrams are lost and over 100 t-90s are lost and you are cheering, perfect

Will state again, “2nd greatest military” after two years has less territory than a year ago, spent months taking two razed cities, lost a bakers dozen aircraft in two weeks, Black Sea reduced to a flotilla and sent packing to safer digs….
All by a country much smaller and lesser equipped
All the mothers, fathers wives and children of all the Russians lost for putins dreams of a renewed empire must be so proud

I am sure that putin is celebrating in his mansions the great victories, send in the next meat waves my “election” is coming up


61 posted on 03/06/2024 4:12:05 AM PST by blitz128
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To: Darksheare

And the Russian navy is powerful?
That is why it has run away from “its” precious Crimean harbor?
The ships designed and designated to protect the harbor and the bridge keep being turned into submarines, but Russian navy is powerful?
Perhaps they can tow out their aircraft carrier, that would scare the hell out of the fish below it


62 posted on 03/06/2024 4:19:37 AM PST by blitz128
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To: kiryandil

One might think they sank the Bismarck! 😂😂😂


63 posted on 03/06/2024 4:35:15 AM PST by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! )
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To: blitz128

They don’t need to be.
Ukraine has no navy, no need for them to truly try to exercise power there.
Turkey not letting them through the bosporus doesn’t matter, they can blockade it from outside themselves.


64 posted on 03/06/2024 4:41:11 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Darksheare

But they do need a navy to protect critical infrastructure, and to launch missles, not to mention having any kind of deterrent to a near peer foe.

Every ship lost makes both less possible, as well as an embarrassment to the image they have projected for years

One of putins goals was to bring ussr er ah Russia back to the “we are important, and must be listened to” table

Every tank, aircraft, ship, air defense system lost degrades that, every drone or missile that gets through shows weakness .

Frankly don’t see many countries lining up to purchase weapons systems from Russia anytime soon even if they had systems to spare.
T-14 MIA,Su-57 mia t-90 destroyed in numbers, vaunted air defense systems destroyed by weapons they were supposed to be able to intercept.

Putin certainly has the resources to continue this for sometime, but at what cost for what benefit?


65 posted on 03/06/2024 4:53:10 AM PST by blitz128
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To: blitz128

USSR doesn’t exist and hasn’t existed since the 90’s
Democrats were upset that their beloved communist utopia was no more, and like a vengeful prom date, they have outright threatened war with Russia ever since.
Case in point: General Wesley Clark telling troops to fire on Russians at Pristina, Obama’s “red lines” in Syria, Hillary talking about war with Russia throughout the 2916 election cycle.


66 posted on 03/06/2024 4:58:28 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: bimboeruption

So you denounce the globohomo. Good!

But you are not denouncing:

1 - The end of NeoSovietism
2 - The end of Communism
3 - The end of Radical Islam

Why?

Also, who cares about Zelensky? You seem to be obsessed by him? Jealousy maybe?

I care about the Ukrainian people being killed in their homes as Russian missiles rains down on civilian targets.
The Kremlin is an anti-Christ organization.
They will pay a high price for attacking the most Christian country in whole of Europe.

Why don’t you care about civilians?
You are a typical aristocrat who thinks people are just deplorables.... and it’s fine to massacre and rape them.

You belong to the middle ages.


67 posted on 03/06/2024 11:21:28 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: Darksheare

And Putin has written and spoken how he laments the fall of the ussr, and the loss of power and prestige it brought
This war is his best attempt are regaining some of which he mourns so much for

Btw, by your definition nazi germany has not existed since 1945, so there can be no nazis as well😎


68 posted on 03/06/2024 12:11:07 PM PST by blitz128
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To: blitz128

And the USSR no longer exists.

“Btw, by your definition nazi germany has not existed since 1945, so there can be no nazis as well”
No, that is a fallacy.
While National Socialist German Workers Party no longer exists, the leftover believers like Azov still exist.
Just like the communist believers like Obama are running around free.


69 posted on 03/06/2024 12:19:17 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Darksheare

And believers in the Soviet Union exhibit 1 Putin

I can believer in Cesar Augustus, doesn’t mean much


70 posted on 03/06/2024 12:33:57 PM PST by blitz128
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To: blitz128

And there are people who look to the Ottomans as an ideal.
Exhibit 1 Toy Yip Erdogan.
Newsflash: humans in general are terrible.


71 posted on 03/06/2024 12:36:07 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: BeauBo
Simply blow the bridges to Crimea, sink the ships, and commence the bombardment.

Ukraine and NATO have been trying to do that for more than a year, all while Ukrainian army is being ground into power and while Ukraine loses more territory.

That strategy guarantees Russia will take more territory -- everything east of Dnieper and Odessa at a minimum -- to protect its territory.

72 posted on 03/06/2024 12:43:43 PM PST by Kazan
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To: BeauBo
Bottom line: The West can meter out as much intensity as it wants, through how much we supply.

If that were true, Ukraine wouldn't be losing territory daily of late.

Ukraine is running out of manpower and the West is running low on missiles and ammo. I can't match Russia's manufacturing capacity of either. Nor do the citizens of Western countries want their governments throwing more money in a proxy war that most see absolutely no national interest in.

73 posted on 03/06/2024 12:49:24 PM PST by Kazan
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To: BeauBo
We could surge enough to expel Russian forces in a few months, anytime the mood strikes in earnest.

Who is "we"? The only way that would even possible is if NATO directly entered the war, which the citizens of no NATO country want, especially this one.

And, we nor NATO is anywhere near capability of fighting a war like that given Russia's massive edge in manufacturing ammo and missiles.

And, the likely scenario would either be another debacle like Vietnam or WW III, which NATO would end up losing.

No sane person should want either.

You're delusional about our and NATO's present capability and refuse to grasp there is no desire on the part of the people in this country or any NATO country to go to war with Russia over Ukraine.

74 posted on 03/06/2024 12:59:08 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Darksheare

Or an operative on the ground here and there...


75 posted on 03/06/2024 3:03:00 PM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: Paul R.

Sat phones and binoculars.


76 posted on 03/06/2024 3:07:51 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Zelensky shaking his groove thang ain’t gonna save the Ruzzian Bottom of the Black Sea Fleet!


77 posted on 03/06/2024 3:29:38 PM PST by MeganC (Ruzzians aren't people. )
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To: BeauBo
The Euro's DID get lucky with the weather. If they'd needed a "cold winter's worth" of LNG (and to a lesser degree, LPG), given the Houthis forcing almost all the gas that would normally go through the Suez Canal to take the long route around South Africa, some Euro's might have been a bit chilly about now. The reserves are not sufficient to suffice if Europe has a cold winter and loses both Russia and the ME as gas suppliers, esp. since Bite Me clamped down on US exports.
78 posted on 03/06/2024 4:46:57 PM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: USA-FRANCE

>You are a typical aristocrat who thinks people are just deplorables.... and it’s fine to massacre and rape them.

You belong to the middle ages.<

You belong in a hôpital pour malades mentaux.


79 posted on 03/06/2024 7:49:21 PM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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