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1 posted on 11/14/2023 7:14:48 AM PST by george76
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Last time I looked, GA has about the highest natural gas prices in the U.S. aside from Hawaii. An additional problem is the cost adjustments. In summer our actual gas usage may be $6/mo, with a $36 add-on charge. Not sure a heat pump wouldn’t be cheaper overall, but the wife loves the heat from our natural gas furnace.


2 posted on 11/14/2023 7:28:57 AM PST by Roadrunner383 (m)
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That the power companies are not forced to variable rates on demand accounts for most of the costs. Daytime power costs can be zero during the day when the sun is out and the wind is blowing in most upper midwest markets. I live in the upper midwest and would love to heat with cheap electric during the day and go to cheapish gas during the night, and the electronics to do that are cheap, just a second hemostat with a clock.

Adding electric to my gas radiant heat system would be less than 2k and if I could get electricity for .09/kWH that is cheaper than .63 per Therm NG contract rate for 2023-2024.

I right now just dump my off grid surplus into a space heater and a mini split from my tiny 3000W of solar and even smaller amount of storage. 3000W x 8hrs covers 9 of 12 months of HVAC.

They can pry my cold dead hands off my natural gas continuous water heater. Half hour in a steamy shower is birthright around here, that is worth the dollar in NG that it could cost.


3 posted on 11/14/2023 7:29:22 AM PST by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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Thank goodness branDUHnomics is keeping everyone’s head above water huh? Oh....?!

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4 posted on 11/14/2023 7:31:16 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this๐Ÿ’ฉ? ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ’‰! ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘!)
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Absorbing that excess cash you’ll have from not being able to afford a card after the EV mandate goes to 100%.


5 posted on 11/14/2023 7:31:41 AM PST by bigbob
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Nothing to worry about, their electric bills won’t be going up because there is a pretty good chance the grid will fail and there won’t be any electricity in the coldest days of winter to come.

Grid Down Alert: North America at Risk of Blackouts During Cold Weather Events

https://thelibertydaily.com/grid-down-alert-north-america-risk-blackouts-during/


6 posted on 11/14/2023 7:36:35 AM PST by eyeamok
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I have been doing various kinds of accounting for over 66 years.

NBot following the “77% more” statement.

IF A UNIT of electricity costs $46.19 & the equivilant unit if Natural Gas costs $13.97———

That calculates to electricity costing 3.30637 TIMES the electricity.

WHAT AM I MISSING???????


7 posted on 11/14/2023 7:43:58 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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“Electric heat to cost 77 percent more than natural gas, federal agency says”

of course, that assumes a reliable supply of electricity, which of course will be impossible as more and more building and vehicles are converted to electricity with zero increase in generation and transmission capacity ...


12 posted on 11/14/2023 8:13:45 AM PST by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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It is a small price for the poor to pay to satisfy moral postering of the elites.


13 posted on 11/14/2023 8:18:03 AM PST by Petrosius
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I guess they didn’t get the message from Biden-on-high about electricity being plentiful - enough to charge up all the EVs he’s forcing everyone to transition to. Magically, in his eyes electricity (for those EVs) is green friendly and plentiful. And, natural gas is a hydrocarbon no-no.


17 posted on 11/14/2023 8:29:57 AM PST by Gaffer
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That’s why in a bankrupt America, green energy will fail


20 posted on 11/14/2023 8:35:23 AM PST by PGR88
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Cheapest ways to heat a house is either coal or wood.

Next cheapest is gas.

Electric is by far and away the most expensive and the most delicate. It will fail when you need it the most.

21 posted on 11/14/2023 8:35:55 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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bttt


24 posted on 11/14/2023 9:08:23 AM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Never be slave in a new Socialist America )
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Colorado Electricity Generation by Source

1st. Renewalbles 1500 thousand MWh
2nd. Coal 1400 thousand MWh
3rd. Natural Gas 1200 thousand MWh

https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=CO#tabs-4

29 posted on 11/14/2023 9:32:15 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Stingโ€ฆ)
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Show me anything the gooberment hasn’t made worse or cost more. Anything at all. I’ll wait.


38 posted on 11/14/2023 11:49:53 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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Hi.

Interesting last few months...

Food inflation since 2021 up 20%>

All fuel costs up 20%.

Natural gas up 8%.

Now I see why the Biden administration wants to get rid of gas stoves and furnaces.

We cook and heat with gas.

5.56mm


39 posted on 11/14/2023 11:53:33 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go)
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