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To: george76
The whole problem with lashing out against the leftists is that they don't need to care, because they know we'll help them even as we complain about them.

We'll continue to pay for TV and pour our money into their coffers with our TV subscriptions, even as they lie about us and Trump and filter out anything bad about their side.

We'll continue to patronize leftist companies even as they suppress our voices for the convenience of getting our products the same day.

They saw how we talked about American values like capitalism and God, but sent our manufacturing, technology, and money to a communist nation that oppresses the church just to save a few pennies. I know some conservatives opposed the free trade deals with the Chicoms, but too many supported them. The fact that they were on the same side as Clinton, Gore, and Biden on this issue should have told them something, but they were seduced by the prospect of more toys for cheaper prices. We could have put a stop to that right from the start, but we chose saving a few pennies over our own children's future. Now, good luck trying to choose American made alternatives to anything.

This is why the left is winning. No matter how much we talk about our conservative values, we'll abandon them at a moment's notice just to have the latest thing or watch the latest show.

The writer pointed out that he doesn't care what leftists think, but they don't care what we think either. They don't need to, because they know they can count on us to keep buying from them even as we complain about them.

This is why op-eds like this will have no impact on them.

29 posted on 11/09/2023 2:59:52 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

best post of the thread ...


39 posted on 11/09/2023 5:03:02 AM PST by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“They saw how we talked about American values like capitalism and God, but sent our manufacturing, technology, and money to a communist nation that oppresses the church just to save a few pennies”

There was a period where we thought that the Chinese were going to slowly transition away from authoritarianism and be more like postwar Germany, Japan and South Korea. So it wasn’t only about cost, it was about opportunities.

We’re in the same position now with the middle east and Russia.

It’s obvious that Putin has for 15 years been far more interested in creating an authoritarian gangsterist empire on the Warsaw Pact and USSR footprint through conquest, than in coming in from the cold.

The EU tried for fifteen years to look the other way and downplay Russian aggression in the hope of a change of heart, but Europe now needs to accept that currently any peace with Russia utterly depends on western Europe screwing over far more reliable allies further east.

Anyone reading the Russian demands to NATO from December 2021 can see the intention; Russia wanted NATO to leave all countries east of Germany open to Russian interference if not outright invasion. The Kremlin reiterated these demands in the spring 2022 negotiations. Yes, Boris Johnson told Zelenskyy these terms were unacceptable but only a Russian stooge cannot see that he was speaking for all of EU NATO members and its Nordic partners when he said it.

The USA needs to think like that too and get out of the bad habit of thinking NATO is ONLY there for the benefit of the USA. The USA remains the only NATO country to invoke Article 5, and when it called, EU NATO answered. The EU NATO countries need to pick up their share of the tab, Trump was right on that, but EU NATO keeps Russia looking at “enemies” westward instead of turning its attention fully eastward.

There’s no point the USA getting directly involved in cultural conflicts with Russia, the Middle East or China, but if Five Eyes and NATO don’t stand firm together, sooner or later Russia and China will attack us through our weakest links. Hoping they attack Europe instead of the USA is poor strategy.


41 posted on 11/09/2023 5:44:42 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
They don't need to, because they know they can count on us to keep buying from them even as we complain about them.

I suspect your internet provider is a loonie leftest organization as well, maybe even your electric provider but here you are still using them. We don't choose to support them we are forced to use them because no conservative had the foresight to create Amazon. WalMart was created by a conservative that raised a bunch of leftest kids, which seems an almost inevitable outcome in our society today.

I use Amazon because the items I purchase there are unavailable to me any other way.

48 posted on 11/09/2023 10:10:12 AM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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