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Putin’s Next Target: U.S. Support for Ukraine, Officials Say
NYT via Yahoo ^ | October 2nd, 2023 | Julian E. Barnes

Posted on 10/02/2023 7:52:15 PM PDT by Mariner

WASHINGTON — Russia’s strategy to win the war in Ukraine is to outlast the West.

But how does Putin plan to do that?

U.S. officials said they are convinced that Putin intends to try to end U.S. and European support for Ukraine by using his spy agencies to push propaganda supporting pro-Russian political parties and by stoking conspiracy theories with new technologies.

The Russia disinformation aims to increase support for candidates opposing Ukraine aid with the ultimate goal of stopping international military assistance to Ukraine.

Russia has been frustrated that the United States and Europe have largely remained united on continued military and economic support for Ukraine, U.S. officials said.

That military aid has kept Ukraine in the fight, put Russia’s original goals of taking Kyiv, the capital, and Odesa out of reach and even halted its more modest objective to control all of the Donbas region, in eastern Ukraine.

But Putin believes he can influence American politics to weaken support for Ukraine and potentially restore his battlefield advantage, U.S. officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 7yearwar; activemeasures; goodinvestment; julianebarnes; moneywellspent; russianmenace
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So, 71% of the Republican electorate, and a majority of all US voters are either stupid or agents for the Evil Empire Russia! Russia! Russia!

It's because of this sad state of affairs the US government must control the information that is available to the American people lest they be duped./s

1 posted on 10/02/2023 7:52:15 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Russian to conclusions but are there any suckers out there maybe the folks wearing masks will buy it...


2 posted on 10/02/2023 7:53:48 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Mariner

Anyone against funding the war in Ukraine? You are a Russian agent, and maybe a traitor to our democracy! Some deepstate truth tellers told this to the NYT, believe them.


3 posted on 10/02/2023 7:57:59 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Mariner

Anytime a geopolitical issue is promoted as binary, bullshit is afoot.
Checkers players...


4 posted on 10/02/2023 8:00:59 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Blinder-wearing amateurs.

Always scan for the next enemy and the next assault.

Play 4 - D chess!


5 posted on 10/02/2023 8:03:25 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Mariner

People in Western nations are saying our economies are suffering and other countries poorer than us are suffering economically driving people to migrate illegally into our countries.

And our leaders want us to be all excited about Ukraine and Russia.


6 posted on 10/02/2023 8:03:49 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Mariner

Wouldn’t it have been something if the left had opposed the USSR like this. Just kidding they loved it.😡😡


7 posted on 10/02/2023 8:03:57 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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What's the path to victory for Ukraine? It's been almost two years and I still haven't heard how they're actually going to win the war.

Most of the intelligent people on this forum knew the undermanned counteroffensive with no air support was going to be a joke.

8 posted on 10/02/2023 8:08:24 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Ukraine has already won.
Oh, they completely and utterly destroyed Russia.
See, they’re planning a huge victory and military parade.
That’s why we keep giving them our money and military equipment.
So they can PAAAR-TAY!!


9 posted on 10/02/2023 8:26:37 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (NO WHITE GUILT - ABSOLUTELY NONE)
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"Anyone against funding the war in Ukraine? You are a Russian agent..."

Sadly, there are ignorant mutts here on FR who attack you, and call you a Putin troll or a member of Putin's fan club if you are against sending unaccounted-for billions to Ukraine in order to fight yet another proxy war with Russia. They follow lock-step with the Biden Administration. This POS "freeandfreezing" repeatedly alluded that I was a traitor who probably supported Ho Chi Minh and the VC, despite the fact that I'd advised him my brother was a Vietnam Veteran (US Army - Cu Chi '66-'67), and that two of my friends in high school were killed there.

10 posted on 10/02/2023 8:28:38 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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But how does Putin plan to do that?

It won't be hard. US Neo-marxists have destroyed social and political cohesion in this country, and Fed.gov is absolutely bloated with debt. Interest payments on the debt are already more than the defense budget, which itself is massive.

And over the next 18-24 months, interest rates will re-set on over 50% of the $33 trillion in US debt, from 1.5%, to 3-4%

to paraphrase Napolean: never interrupt your enemy while they are destroying themselves.

11 posted on 10/02/2023 9:11:06 PM PDT by PGR88
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This POS "NPC" repeatedly alluded that I was a traitor who probably supported Ho Chi Minh and the VC, despite the fact that I'd advised him my brother was a Vietnam Veteran


12 posted on 10/02/2023 9:43:16 PM PDT by cabojoe ( 🇺🇸 Stop Ukie censorship. Release Gonzalo Lira)
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To: Mariner

All Putin has to do is wait until we’re bankrupt.


13 posted on 10/02/2023 9:53:24 PM PDT by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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The president of Ukraine and Russia are both dictators. I don’t care who wins or loses anymore.


14 posted on 10/02/2023 9:55:22 PM PDT by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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To: Mariner
And his next target? Support for Biden and democrats.

What a pile.

15 posted on 10/02/2023 10:13:25 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: mass55th
Sadly, there are ignorant mutts here on FR who attack you, and call you a Putin troll or a member of Putin's fan club if you are against sending unaccounted-for billions to Ukraine in order to fight yet another proxy war with Russia. They follow lock-step with the Biden Administration. This POS "freeandfreezing" repeatedly alluded that I was a traitor who probably supported Ho Chi Minh and the VC, despite the fact that I'd advised him my brother was a Vietnam Veteran (US Army - Cu Chi '66-'67), and that two of my friends in high school were killed there.

I’m sorry you lost people there. :( War sucks and those little keyboard pounders don’t have a clue. You’re right; they hiss insults like “Putin puffer,” “Bolshevik,” etc. at anybody who opposes our tax dollars going unaudited to a known money-laundering operation. Of course, most of the hissers aren’t even American and it’s not *their* money being wasted.

They are a scourge on this site.

16 posted on 10/02/2023 10:16:33 PM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

You’ve ask a rhetorical question, there is no path to victory other than bleeding Russia by sending Ukrainians to be slaughtered

There never was a path to victory


17 posted on 10/02/2023 10:16:52 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: cabojoe

Yeah...that’s the mutt! Recognize him anywhere.


18 posted on 10/02/2023 10:20:30 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Allegra

Thanks Allegra. Appreciate your support. You’ve been right there next to the rest of us.


19 posted on 10/02/2023 10:21:27 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: roving
"The president of Ukraine and Russia are both dictators. I don’t care who wins or loses anymore."

Same here. I never gave a crap about either of them from the beginning. Both countries are corrupt (as is this one), and both have helped make politicians on both sides of the aisle, their family members, friends, and big donors, very wealthy off the back of American taxpayers.

20 posted on 10/02/2023 10:23:34 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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