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To: Mariner
What's the path to victory for Ukraine? It's been almost two years and I still haven't heard how they're actually going to win the war.

Most of the intelligent people on this forum knew the undermanned counteroffensive with no air support was going to be a joke.

8 posted on 10/02/2023 8:08:24 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Ukraine has already won.
Oh, they completely and utterly destroyed Russia.
See, they’re planning a huge victory and military parade.
That’s why we keep giving them our money and military equipment.
So they can PAAAR-TAY!!


9 posted on 10/02/2023 8:26:37 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (NO WHITE GUILT - ABSOLUTELY NONE)
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You’ve ask a rhetorical question, there is no path to victory other than bleeding Russia by sending Ukrainians to be slaughtered

There never was a path to victory


17 posted on 10/02/2023 10:16:52 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

“how they’re actually going to win the war.”

Putin’s objectives in invading Ukraine were to establish Russian control over Ukraine without facing significant Western resistance and break the unity of NATO. He claimed the goal was to “demilitarize” Ukraine.

By those standards Ukraine won — like a potential kidnapping victim who fought against the kidnapper and broke a leg, is bleeding, but is still not captured by the kidnapper (Putin’s Muscowy).

By that standard, Ukraine won - it’s now trying to ensure that the kidnapper never has the ability to even attempt to kidnap Ukraine again.

After 2014/2015 Ukraine thought Putin would be satisfied with his pound of flesh in taking both Crimea and de facto the Donetsk People’s republic + Luhansk People’s republic.

But Putin was not satisfied and went for a decapitation move to vassalize Ukraine.

He failed but is only waiting for the world to forget so he can complete his goal. The Ukrainians on the other hand got invigorated and now have a sense of identity (thanks to Putin’s invasion) and won’t submit to the darkness.


22 posted on 10/02/2023 11:48:06 PM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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