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Evidence Suggests Ukrainian Missile Caused Market Tragedy
NYT via Yahoo ^ | September 19th, 2023 | John Ismay

Posted on 09/19/2023 7:50:03 AM PDT by Mariner

The Sept. 6 missile strike on Kostiantynivka in eastern Ukraine was one of the deadliest in the country in months, killing at least 15 civilians and injuring more than 30 others. The weapon’s payload of metal fragments struck a market, piercing windows and walls and wounding some victims beyond recognition.

Less than two hours later, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy blamed Russian “terrorists” for the attack, and many media outlets followed suit. Throughout its invasion of Ukraine, Russia has repeatedly and systematically attacked civilians and struck schools, markets and residences as a deliberate tactic to instill fear in the populace. In Kostiantynivka in April, soldiers shelled homes and a preschool, killing six.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charlatans; kostiantynivka
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They didn't let this one go to waste.
1 posted on 09/19/2023 7:50:03 AM PDT by Mariner
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“But evidence collected and analyzed by The New York Times, including missile fragments, satellite imagery, witness accounts and social media posts, strongly suggests the catastrophic strike was the result of an errant Ukrainian air defense missile fired by a Buk launch system.”


2 posted on 09/19/2023 7:50:55 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“Ukrainian authorities initially tried to prevent journalists with the Times from accessing the missile debris and impact area in the strike’s immediate aftermath. But the reporters were eventually able to get to the scene, interview witnesses and collect remnants of the weapon used.”


3 posted on 09/19/2023 7:52:23 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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It’s good the US Congress knows this before they cast their votes on the additional $40 bil.


4 posted on 09/19/2023 7:53:10 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Can someone run a search for “Kostiantynivka” so we can gauge the level of propaganda on the forum when this happened?


5 posted on 09/19/2023 7:59:21 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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Oh what a surprise. Ukrainians continue to deliberately attack and kill civilians intentionally. The same people that they were attacking and killing before Russia came. Oh and they want these territories back so they can exterminate the ethnic Russian citizenry. Must be hard to aim at actual military targets to win their fine war.


6 posted on 09/19/2023 7:59:25 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! )
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Interesting details. Crater analysis doesn’t lie. Neither does the video of people looking that way and the fragment analysis.
The only odd thing is the NYT going to such efforts and then letting people know it’s Ukrainian. The NYT is a Uke cheerleader. Maybe they knew the story was getting out elsewhere or something...


7 posted on 09/19/2023 8:00:25 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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“They didn’t let this one go to waste.”

The REAL QUESTION is: Why is the NY Times calling the Ukrainians liars on something this important, when they could have just kept their mouths shut?

ANSWER: The Administration now wants to ‘get Ukraine behind us’.


8 posted on 09/19/2023 8:00:49 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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They’ll be here soon to call this report bullsh!t.


9 posted on 09/19/2023 8:01:23 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Throughout its invasion of Ukraine, Russia has repeatedly and systematically attacked civilians and struck schools, markets and residences as a deliberate tactic to instill fear in the populace.

It's nice they admitted what we all knew already (online sleuths quickly pointed to several lines of evidence the missile came from Ukrainian territory, not from Russia to the east). But they have to cling to their lies in claiming without evidence that Russia as deliberately attacking civilians. To the contrary, from reports it's the Ukrainians who spent the last 9 years shelling and droning civilians and continue to do so in Donetsk and other regions.

10 posted on 09/19/2023 8:02:13 AM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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I’m no friend of the Kiev nazi regime, but I doubt it was deliberate. With that many rockets and shells flying, some are -guaranteed- to fall short or go haywire. Especially with old soviet era weaponry.

The main lesson here is to see how fast the Uke propaganda machine spun it to be the exact opposite.

The main question here is why the NYT hustled like this to get the actual story.


11 posted on 09/19/2023 8:04:53 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Wiki tells the lie:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_2023_Kostiantynivka_missile_strike


12 posted on 09/19/2023 8:10:29 AM PDT by CapandBall
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Don’t Start no $hit...there will be no $hit!


13 posted on 09/19/2023 8:24:44 AM PDT by Big Bill in TN (Army Vet.here. I know how to fix stupid, but it will hurt!)
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I remember the usual Tub Thumpers banging the drum about "The EVIL Ruzzians"...

Now that the light is shining on them, they'll scuttle back under the baseboard, till they can shout about today's Narrative with "What [fill in the blank] doink?".  

14 posted on 09/19/2023 8:25:56 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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💯👍


15 posted on 09/19/2023 8:30:21 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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They have been doing it for years, it’s no accident!


16 posted on 09/19/2023 8:38:24 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! )
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>> The Administration now wants to ‘get Ukraine behind us’.

Because 2024.


17 posted on 09/19/2023 8:55:17 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.a)
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It’s The NY Times. They have zero credibility. The only way to approach this war is based on American interests and the principle of America First. Everything out there is potential propaganda and unworthy of basing any decision or opinion.


18 posted on 09/19/2023 9:13:57 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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Throughout its invasion of Ukraine, Russia has repeatedly and systematically attacked civilians and struck schools, markets and residences as a deliberate tactic to instill fear in the populace.

That flat out is a lie. Russia has gone out of it's way to avoid civilian casualties. Ukraine on the other hand uses civilians as human shields, they have even targeted their own for political and propaganda purposes.
19 posted on 09/19/2023 9:45:02 AM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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Not errant.

Deliberate.


20 posted on 09/19/2023 10:14:27 AM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas, enjoy the decline)
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