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Judge sets limits on Trump discussing classified info in Mar-a-Lago documents case
CNBC ^ | 9/13/2023 | Dan Mangen

Posted on 09/13/2023 8:24:30 AM PDT by Alter Kaker

A federal judge on Wednesday issued an order setting limits on where and how former President Donald Trump can discuss classified information with his defense lawyers for the criminal case where he is charged with retaining classified documents after leaving the White House.

The order by Judge Aileen Cannon in U.S. District Court for southern Florida instructing Trump ansd his lawyers to discuss that information in a secured location endorsed limitations sought by prosecutors from the office of special counsel Jack Smith over the objections of Trump.

But Cannon’s order was vague on the question of whether several concessions sought by Trump about how he could discuss classified information would eventually be granted in one form or the other.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
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1 posted on 09/13/2023 8:24:30 AM PDT by Alter Kaker
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To: Alter Kaker

Not out of bounds to require communications of a classified nature to take place in a SCIF. He probably has access to several.

Colonel, USAF JAGC (Ret)


2 posted on 09/13/2023 8:27:59 AM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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To: Alter Kaker

That’s Constitutional BS.

If DJT had documents in his possession as President, and took them home, they are automatically declassified.


3 posted on 09/13/2023 8:28:42 AM PDT by budj (Combat vet, second of three generations.)
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To: Alter Kaker

The word ‘retained’ is bothersome, beceause it implies he had the power to de-classify at will as President; why should the presumption be they remain ‘classified’ when he transitioned to ‘citizen’?


4 posted on 09/13/2023 8:36:30 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: Alter Kaker

This is a set-up to enable the government to indict Trump again for what he might say to his lawyers.

The insanity continues to compound.


5 posted on 09/13/2023 8:53:38 AM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg

I thought Judge Eileen Cannon was pro-Trump!


6 posted on 09/13/2023 8:56:07 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: budj

Yeah. Not sure many are buying that.


7 posted on 09/13/2023 9:04:09 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

She’s pro law which is good.


8 posted on 09/13/2023 9:04:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: napscoordinator

She is clueless on the law. Trump had every right to the documents.


9 posted on 09/13/2023 9:08:50 AM PDT by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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To: Alter Kaker

I suppose this entire narrative is to keep promoting the idea that Trump was working on behalf of foreign interests.

From what I have heard, the classified documents that Trump supposedly retained are related to the attempts to prove “Russian collusion.” In other words, they are not documents that would give away information gravely detrimental to US security interests.

The DOJ posted pictures of boxes of allegedly classified material that Trump stored at Mar-a-Lago. One of the boxes had broken open and spilled a bunch of newspapers and photographs. I don’t actually believe that newspapers and photographs constitute “classified material.”

I would like to see more on Biden’s illegal retention of classified documents in his garage and in his office at the U of PA. I want to know who he allowed to view those documents. Seems to me that Hunter’s appointments to sit on high-level corporate boards in China and Ukraine might be payment for the information contained in those documents.


11 posted on 09/13/2023 9:11:18 AM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: ping jockey

They have done away with the concept of A/C privilege, executive privilege and deliberative privilege completely when it comes to Trump. Unconstitutional (No Due Process) and an extremely dangerous precedent, but the leftists NEVER thinks things through before enacting their BS. Pretty soon it will get extended to everyone in the US regardless of politics, and will not be recognized by any courts anymore. We are at least halfway down the slippery slope.


12 posted on 09/13/2023 9:19:47 AM PDT by jpp113
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To: Alter Kaker

Interesting. Where does the Judge get her classification/declassification authority vis-a-vis the President Trump documents? My question to the judge: Cite me your authority for your order?


13 posted on 09/13/2023 9:23:24 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: budj

You are correct.

He does not have to perform some ceremony to declassify anything.

He does not have to say “I declassify thee” or even give anyone notice.


14 posted on 09/13/2023 9:33:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: iontheball
Where does the Judge get her classification/declassification authority vis-a-vis the President Trump documents?

Nobody is suggesting the judge has declassification authority.

My question to the judge: Cite me your authority for your order?

President Trump is a defendant in her court. To the extent that classified documents are evidence in a case in front of her, she has a responsibility to set parameters on their use.

15 posted on 09/13/2023 9:47:21 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Why would the subject matter of what the documents contain be a matter of contention or importance. The issue is whether or not Trump had a right to them, whether the FBI was justified in raiding the place, whether or not Trump was complying with FBI demands previous to the raid, whether or not the National Archives had the authority to engage in their part, and whether or not the DOJ even has standing to pursue the indictments.


16 posted on 09/13/2023 9:56:42 AM PDT by odawg
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To: budj
If DJT had documents in his possession as President, and took them home, they are automatically declassified.

President Trump said the Iran attack plan was still classified, which was problematic because he wanted to use it to make a point about Milley's warmongering.

No offense, but I'll take his word over yours.
17 posted on 09/13/2023 9:57:24 AM PDT by Observator
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To: exDemMom

If it was so classified, why is no one being investigated for taking and releasing the photos?


18 posted on 09/13/2023 9:58:48 AM PDT by pas
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To: Alter Kaker

I’ve seen nothing indicating Jack Smith, or any of the prosecuting team, has sufficient clearance to review or to discuss any of the material they are alleging Trump “stole’”


19 posted on 09/13/2023 10:01:53 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: budj
If DJT had documents in his possession as President, and took them home, they are automatically declassified.

I think the chink in the armor is that PDJT didn't personally pack those boxes and move them to Mar-a-Lago. I think there are classified documents in the mix that were never declassified and I think their presence in the boxes was deliberate.

20 posted on 09/13/2023 10:03:41 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Ephesians 6:10 - 18)
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