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DeSantis defends 'listless vessels' remark about Trump supporters after backlash
NBC News ^ | 8/22/2023 | Summer Concepcion

Posted on 08/22/2023 3:06:13 PM PDT by aperez77

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday defended his remark over the weekend urging Republicans against being “listless vessels” who support former President Donald Trump.

In a Florida Standard interview last week, DeSantis, who is running a distant second to Trump in polls for the GOP presidential nomination, said the conservative movement shouldn’t be centered around loyalty to Trump. “[I]f you’re not rooted in principle, if all we are is listless vessels that are just supposed to follow whatever happens to come down the pike on Truth Social every morning, that’s not going to be a durable movement,” he said.

DeSantis’ comments drew swift criticism from the Trump campaign, with senior adviser Jason Miller comparing it to a comment then-Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton made during the 2016 race, when she said half of Trump's supporters belong in a “basket of deplorables.”

“Looks like Ron DeSanctimonious just had his ‘Basket of Deplorables’ moment. Not good!” Miller wrote in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter.


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To: SkyDancer

“Just we were deplorables with Clinton.”

Uh UH. We were irredeemable, too.


41 posted on 08/22/2023 4:26:35 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Stingray51

Pretty sure it was a little more, or a little less, than 24 hours. The very next day, IIRC.


42 posted on 08/22/2023 4:30:30 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: gibsonguy

I will give you that, DeSantis does give long sentence answers when a short sentence would suffice. Sometimes his wording leaves me wondering what his reading list is. But at the end, he is highly intelligent, thoughtful, full of details, sometimes too many. He cares, obviously, is focused on doing what he says. Which is very important to me.


43 posted on 08/22/2023 4:30:42 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: SecondAmendment

Well, I’m good with your point #1

The rest...meh

Border had to be litigated and he got more than the previous two guys

he torched some Salami guy in Arab lands...

smoke 300 Russians in Syria...

Broke bread with the Chia pet of North Korea

put such significant tariffs on China they only now begging Bejing Biden to remove them.

Put tariff demands on Mexico to stop the flow of immigrants

And I’m pretty dang’d happy about moving the embassy to Jerusalem, recognizing it as the capital and then the Abraham Accords....

He didn’t really pursue any agenda he spoke about after Parkland, FL and threatened to Veto H.R. 8, which would have imposed sweeping universal background checks on some really dumb stuff.

I could probably think of a few other things I’m good with...


44 posted on 08/22/2023 4:32:18 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: delchiante

“DeJeb’s entire remarks were okay until the mention of Truth Social.
And listless vessels..”

That was my thought as well. If he had left the Truth Social out of it would not have been a bad statement, but that gave the impression he was talking about Trump supporters.


45 posted on 08/22/2023 4:34:35 PM PDT by suthener
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To: aperez77
The sad thing is, none of this is defensible.

Ron was talking about Trump supporters here, and he
minces no words about what he thinks of us.

In a Florida Standard interview last week, DeSantis, who
is running a distant second to Trump in polls for the GOP
presidential nomination, said,...

...the conservative movement shouldn’t be centered
around loyalty to Trump...


Is it? If that's what Ron thinks, he really doesn't get
what Trump is up to. It's an admission that Ron is out
in left field playing by himself.

I thought Ron was on board Trump's agenda. Now it's
clear that wasn't true, and has some vision of it that
isn't reality based. He thinks it's mindless drivel
pumped out to an unsuspecting group of people too
dumb to catch on to it's vacant or evil nature.

Tell us Ron, what are we weak kneed Conservatives doing
that tips you off to the impression we are only following
Trump, and don't care what he supports?

Do you honestly have this poor of an opinion about the
people who support Trump? Do you really think that
Trump is all about fans, and has no agenda? Really?

If you’re not rooted in principle, if all we are is
listless vessels that are just supposed to follow
whatever happens to come down the pike on Truth
Social every morning, that’s not going to be a durable
movement,..

...he said.

Ron, you just made it clear that you think many of
Trump's supporters are not rooted in principle at all,
and are listless vessels that are just following
whatever happens to come down the pike on Truth Social
every morning.

If you believe that, you're not the person I thought
your were.

Trump supporters are America First people. Maybe you
will grasp that in time.

46 posted on 08/22/2023 4:35:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: aperez77

That’s ok, he will have to learn how to defend himself. He will have to walk thru the coals if he would happen to be the candidate. It won’t be a slide in like it was in Florida.


47 posted on 08/22/2023 4:40:37 PM PDT by lilypad
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To: cport

” So, no more to ship.”

Do you really expect me to believe that, since I know you don’t believe that, unless you are stone cold insane?


48 posted on 08/22/2023 4:40:49 PM PDT by odawg
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To: aperez77

You could argue that listless vessels are better than listing vessels.


49 posted on 08/22/2023 4:41:09 PM PDT by csn vinnie
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To: aperez77

President Trump never said that. The media did.


50 posted on 08/22/2023 4:41:58 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop ( ~~ TRUMP is right about EVERYTHING ! ~~ )
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To: aperez77

DeSanches should be set adrift in a listless rubber boat


51 posted on 08/22/2023 4:43:02 PM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: aperez77

Never miss a chance to take hyperbole concretely, if you want to sway the opinions of…eight year olds.


52 posted on 08/22/2023 4:43:13 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Reno89519

Sorry pal but he made a real rookie mistake. Stepped on the third rail; and he’s toast. Probably a good enough guy, but not ready for prime time.


53 posted on 08/22/2023 4:52:52 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Pushaw is a demented Joker clone. Her face is filled with plastic because of her surgery addictions.


54 posted on 08/22/2023 5:16:43 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: aperez77

sextupling down?

are they hoping the 6 x stupid = smart


55 posted on 08/22/2023 5:29:16 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (Wake me up when somebody tells the truth.)
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To: aperez77

I want my freedom back so...


56 posted on 08/22/2023 5:30:02 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (Wake me up when somebody tells the truth.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Well written. Well done.


57 posted on 08/22/2023 5:32:43 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (Wake me up when somebody tells the truth.)
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To: lee martell
He really got under some people’s skin with that little wisecrack. In politics, sometimes just getting a fresh wave of attention becomes it’s own reward.

Yep. All the people who called him "meatball," a "GOPe stooge," a "Rove/Ryan plant," "George Soros' preferred candidate," and said they wouldn't vote for him in a million years are now bellowing, "You went too far! You crossed the line!"

I'm glad DeSantis isn't walking it back. He's 100% dead-on correct.

58 posted on 08/22/2023 5:39:07 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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To: batazoid
Agree!

The pubbies running are about nothing but getting rid of Trump as does the Biden Regime!
It's so obvious with all the bogus indictments!

59 posted on 08/22/2023 5:44:46 PM PDT by djstex (All I Have to Say... President Trump was right about everything!)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Exactly and comes along DeSinking and finds yet another way of dismissing Millions of Trump Supprters.

Ron and Hillary ran up the same hill to spill a pail of deplorables and listless vessels and to no avail, they both came tumbling down!

HA! :) Way to Go...Roonie! ;)

60 posted on 08/22/2023 5:55:40 PM PDT by djstex (All I Have to Say... President Trump was right about everything!)
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