Now, the plaintiffs in this lawsuit claim that even when the HP ink cartridge is empty or not in the HP printer, the scanning or faxing capability is disabled until a new, full HP ink cartridge is put into the printer.
Here is U.S. District Judge Beth Freeman's opinion that the case of Freund v. HP, Inc. can now go forward.
PING for later.
HP Printer.
Has (intentional) Problems.
For our home use, I buy cheap Brother laser printers (used to buy HP, but way too expensive and poor value) and an Epson scanner. Keep the devices separate to optimize both functions. I put the scanner on a shelf in the closet because I use it so infrequently. It’s so easy to pull it out when I need it, plug it into the USB port and start scanning. These days, probably 75% of my “scans” are quick snaps with the phone.
We have an HP, and stopped using their ink program, because invariably the cartridge they sent to us wouldn’t be accepted as authentically theirs. It became a hardship. Still use their cartridges, but I go purchase them at the store myself.
It’s very unreliable. I pretty much hate them but I’m not in a position to replace this POS printer.
Watch the settlement consist of a voucher good for $5 off the price of an HP printer...
But, but, but it’s a feature.
But all is fair in business... Fraud, Deception, sabotage of product, one sided contracts, etc.
I went to print recently with my epson xp-7100 inkjet and the cyan (blue) went empty so I changed it with a new cartridge. The new cartridge was creating streaks.
I did a head cleaning then a nozzle check and had to do this 3 times and the rest of the ink was now running down.... $$
I cannot print using standard without getting streaks but now use High quality so I do not get streaks.
I print every week as recommended to keep the ink from drying out and I only bought the printer 11 months ago for $225.
Epson XP-7100 Nozzle checks with Clean cycles in between done a few days ago.....
Maybe a ecotank ink printer is best as at least the ink bottles are cheaper.
Below are my nozzle checks and clean cycles
https://tinyurl.com/24ztk4z4
I can spend $550 for a epson ecotank printer with 6 colors or $330 that has 4 colors. Both will have eventually have streaks from the reviews. They have many models to choose from. I am thinking of getting the Epson EcoTank ET-3830 with 4 colors
Or buy a HP ink tank and have the same issue or a bricked printer due to firmware issues... : )
At least you have big bottles of ink to do the nozzle checks and head cleaning. The ink is also much cheaper to buy in the big bottles so you can use the Epson ink and not the 3rd party ones as you may do with the expensive cartridges which are 1/3rd more to double then 3rd party.
I swear the cleaning cycles are designed to use up ink. They could easily add another cartridge with solvent to clean without using the ink itself.
Epson EcoTank ET-3830 with 4 colors
https://tinyurl.com/bdh8aj9x
Epson EcoTank Photo ET-8500 with 6 colors
https://www.amazon.com/Epson-Wireless-Wide-Format-Supertank-Touchscreen/dp/B08R57JK88?th=1
I have owned HP printers for a long time. Don’t use non HP cartridges so I can’t speak on that. But mine is old enough that it does not stop working when it runs out of ink. It will still print in black and white when the color ink is gone. In fact it will still pretend to print with no ink at all. The scanner keeps working too.
I have had two HP printers that have got me through 20 years. The first still worked but it became outdated and the ink became very hard to find and very expensive. It also had no scanner.
I don’t do a massive amount of printing so that does help.
I had an HP printer that was always out of ink. 50 dollars a whack every few months. Most of my printing was done in black but for some reason the printer didn’t use just black ink but the magenta too. What really ticked me off was that it wouldn’t print at all when one ink got low.
Trashed that baby and bought a Brother with just the toner. Still expensive but I can get a year out of one cartridge.
Yes, my HP 8610 failed and I suspect a firmware update did it. And did not know how to successfully downgrade the firrmware. Hints for HP Printer Firmware Downgrade https://borncity.com/win/2021/02/02/firmware-downgrade-for-hp-printer/
Thus I turned off all communication with HP for my 8210 replacement and MS driver updates. See Turn off the Dynamic Security feature on HP printers to protect your ability to use aftermarket cartridges. https://www.printerrefillers.com/turn-off-the-dynamic-security-feature-on-hp-printers-to-protect-your-ability-to-use-aftermarket-cartridges/
I use a Brother L2395 Lasers for just black, and I would compare the page yields and refill costs for cartridges for each which cost about $100 when i bought it, and though it has been told me it needed toner for about a year it still kept doing my occasional printing, though I finally replaced the cart, though you can shake the old one to get more mile out if it.
My past history. After many years of messy refilling cheap Lexmark inkjet cart, I prayed and researched the largest cap. injects. Which I found HP inkjets (not that I think they are necessarily the best company), to be, and looking at cartridge capacities and replacement costs, then the prices for printers that take them, I found that the large capacity (High Yield) HP 950XL black and 951XL cartridges, (Black up to 2300 pages, Color up to 1500 pages, 5 percent coverage at A4 paper) at about $10 for a set of 4 remanufactured ones on Ebay (just press OK when HP protests) were the most economical.
These carts (cartridges) fit HP Office Pro 8100 8600 8610 8620 8630 8640 8660 8615 8625 M251dw 276dw printers. However, now these are discontinued and expensive (see at end for what I presently recommend) They used to be cheaper used (I bought a little used 8100 for $65 at Amazon warehouse and later a new 8610 for about $135, praise God).
Runner ups among lowest cost high cap. carts would be the HP 952XL High Yield carts (1450 to to 2k) , and a lower (about 825) HP 933XL. The lower the numbers then the older the printers that they belong to and lower the est. page yields. Which page yields are of course inflated, since you normally do not want to be printing at 5% coverage.
You can see the HP cart page here https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mlp/ink—toner-—paper/ink-cartridges for more info, though they usually do not tell you how many milliliters each cart holds.
And usually the lower the printer cost then the higher the replacement costs per page are. But Renewed means less, and so I bought a HP OfficeJet Pro 8210 (presently about$115 Renewed on Amazon) which takes 952 carts (presently about $22 for a 4 pack of reman carts on Ebay) But for now I have refilled the original carts, since HP sent me two sets due to problems with my first HP OfficeJet Pro 8210 which carriage locked up. https://support.hp.com/us-en
But printers will not last forever (my printer status report says my page count is close to 2500) and life and Eternity awaits us humans . Thus may all presently turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinners, trust Him to save and be baptized and follow Him!