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Citing shipyard squeeze, Navy wants commercial option for dismantling nuclear-powered carrier
Breaking Defense ^ | July 10, 2023 at 3:18 PM | Justin Katz

Posted on 07/11/2023 4:22:00 AM PDT by Fish Speaker

WASHINGTON — The Navy has published the final draft of its environmental impact statement assessing how it should go about dismantling the former aircraft carrier Enterprise (CVN-65), a process that will likely set decades-long precedents for future nuclear-powered ships.

Environmental impact statements, as the name implies, are lengthy documents that outline the dangers to the ecosystem that disposing of decades-old nuclear reactors can pose, as well as identify one of several courses of action with which the Navy prefers to move forward. Due to the numerous state and federal agencies that must weigh in, as well as considering the general public’s comments, the documents often take years to produce and finalize.

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TOPICS: Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: enterprise; environment; impact; navy; nuclear; scrapping
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The former Enterprise will be the first ever nuclear-powered carrier the Navy inactivates. The Nimitz is slated to be the second.
1 posted on 07/11/2023 4:22:00 AM PDT by Fish Speaker
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To: Fish Speaker

Replacements?


2 posted on 07/11/2023 4:24:50 AM PDT by Candor7 (( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=300></img>)
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Replacements?

Have the bumbling idiots in our government thought that far ahead?

3 posted on 07/11/2023 4:34:18 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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They’ve laid the keel for CVN-80 - USS Enterprise, a Ford-class Nuclear Aircraft Carrier.


4 posted on 07/11/2023 4:38:27 AM PDT by Fish Speaker (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Oh, and, "Let's Go Brandon!")
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Great, they built it but don't know how to get rid of her properly.

Oh, wait......Oops, it sank. Suddenly. Oh, well, outta sight, outta mind.

5 posted on 07/11/2023 4:39:33 AM PDT by W. (biden and co. must go! We need Trump back!)
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To: Candor7

USS Enterprise (CVN-65) —> USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78)

USS Nimitz (CVN-68) —> USS John F. Kennedy (CVN-79)


6 posted on 07/11/2023 4:40:59 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: BlackbirdSST

They are already ahead of the game


7 posted on 07/11/2023 4:43:58 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: Alas Babylon!

USS Politician. Disgusting. And obsolete.


8 posted on 07/11/2023 4:48:02 AM PDT by TTFlyer (Lenin: that by the infliction of terror, a well-organized minority can conquer a nation.)
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-— “Citing shipyard squeeze, Navy wants commercial option so that some Democrat-connected CEOs can squeeze some more profits from the taxpayers.....

One recalls the Clinton era and so-called "peace dividend" which was one of the many delicious turkeys carved up to feed the politically well connected, as the US -- recall Ross Perot's "giant sucking sound" prediction -- out sourced to "offshore" shipyard and many other manufacturing jobs. Because, savings.... And dividends.... The consequences are now very visible. More than $32 trillion dollars visible, with DC still doing the carving of the next turkeys.

9 posted on 07/11/2023 4:48:27 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Its not like this is the first nuke to be scrapped. What happened to the Long Beach?


10 posted on 07/11/2023 4:50:27 AM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Bingo - “Navy” wants to find a way to use the ‘cost’ to gain some influence with the moneychangers in the temple (Congress).


11 posted on 07/11/2023 4:54:34 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Fish Speaker

Send them into the Taiwan strait, they get dismantled for free.


12 posted on 07/11/2023 4:57:38 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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“...dismantling nuclear-powered carrier Enterprise”

Take that China!!! We’re not going to give your hypersonics any targets, we’ll just destroy them for you!!!


13 posted on 07/11/2023 5:03:05 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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They had better trace whoever get for the “commercial option” all the way back and make sure that it’s not part of the Chinese military. Plan on them to be the low bidder on such a project…


14 posted on 07/11/2023 5:20:30 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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It’s hard for someone my age (and a veteran) to see the Enterprise (CVN-65) go away....*SIGH*


15 posted on 07/11/2023 5:31:13 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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How many nuclear subs, cruisers etc. has US navy scrapped over the years? A lot. The US Navy has been dismantling nuclear reactors, including damaged ones, at least since then Lt. Jimmy Carter. It may not be simple, but they know how and I've never read of any serious complications from it. And somehow the anti-nuke types never complained about the environmental risks of scrapping the earlier nuclear boomers and attack subs. And, unlike the Russians, I don't think we just dumped the reactors, or even the full subs, intentionally (we've lost and thus unintentionally dumped 2 subs with reactors, the Russians more) in the ocean. Novaya Zemlya's waters are rich with such dumpings.

How many non-nuclear carriers has it scraped? Also a lot. Most of the 24 ship Essex class amongst others. Not to mention scrapping many other fairly large ships. Another routine process. Now we've let our shipyard capacity slip and the size factor of the BigE and her nuclear successors limits where their scrapping can occur. Possibly to different sites than had nuclear sub scrapping experience. But we don't have to invent new tech or methods. Just apply old ones to new circumstances. BigE IIRC has multiple small nuclear reactors so some steps will get multiple reps. We may need to invest in more capacity to manage future needs.

16 posted on 07/11/2023 5:32:49 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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Of course they want to do a commercial dismantling. They will give the job to a Chinese. company so the Chinese can learn how we. build them.


17 posted on 07/11/2023 5:38:18 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: Fish Speaker

My grandson is a supervisor in a shop in The Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, another reservist grandson-in-law that is halfway through his apprenticeship there and yet another grandson who is a supervisor in periscope repair facility at Naval Sub Base Bangor, who started at the PSNS before transferring to Bangor closer to his home.

They all have worked in the nuclear deactivation portion of the shipyard. They’ve been cutting up nuclear subs for decades at PSNS. They are very, very skilled at the process. In the past 30+ years we’ve seen 4 commercial shipyards close, sell their dry docks to the highest bidders and develop the waterfront facilities.

Lockheed, gone. Lorain, gone. Foss Maritime, gone. Todd Shipyard, gone. Vigor hanging on by a thread. Just where are the commercial shipyards the Navy intends to outsource this work to? Foreign countries? What about the highly skilled American career technicians who do this kind of dangerous work?

The only option I can see is using the power of eminent domain the Navy assumes the Port of LA, perhaps the Port of Seattle, these longshoremen and their communist union, ILWU, founded by a communist named Harry Bridges, are trying to screwup Americans with their strategic labor disruptions, and sell the land to a new concern that could do the work. Otherwise, the only other option I see is offshore, that’s not going to float.


18 posted on 07/11/2023 5:47:41 AM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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It’s hard for someone my age (and a veteran) to see the Enterprise (CVN-65) go away....*SIGH*

I had a similar feeling when touring NYC and walking on the USS Intrepid (WW2 aircraft carrier). It was neat to do, but the whole time I was thinking how much better it would have been to walk on the WW2 Enterprise, which they said would have been too costly to repair to make a museum out of it.

20 battle stars. 71 enemy ships sunk and 192 ships damaged (including credit for assisting with other allied ships in sinking enemy ships)

19 posted on 07/11/2023 5:48:52 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Take them out to the middle of the Atlantic and sink them.


20 posted on 07/11/2023 5:50:53 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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