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HP disables customers’ printers if they use ink cartridges from cheaper rivals
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/hp-printers-computers-ink-cartridges-rivals/ ^

Posted on 05/13/2023 3:29:04 PM PDT by algore

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To: DUMBGRUNT

I like the HP B&W lasers because the cartridges replace all of the disposable parts. I don’t have to replace the drum like the Canon printers. I don’t like their ink jets or color lasers.


61 posted on 05/13/2023 6:15:29 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: algore

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/hp-printers-computers-ink-cartridges-rivals/


62 posted on 05/13/2023 6:18:26 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: Reeses

That’s funny!

Good one.

Give me toner cartridges or give me paperless society.

I despise printers to no end. Lotus Notes is the software version of ultimate hate by me.

The greatest scene in modern cinema is Office Space’s destruction of the evil incarnate printer.


63 posted on 05/13/2023 6:19:45 PM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: wally_bert

HP makes great printers.

The consumables market is another story. It’s the Kodak model.

Must use Kodak chemicals on Kodak film, and print on Kodak paper using Kodak chemicals. It was a golden goose until its time had passed.

I don’t necessarily blame HP. Ricoh, Cannon, Kyocera, et al do the same thing.


64 posted on 05/13/2023 6:22:17 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (The modern world demands that we approve what it should not even dare ask us to tolerate.)
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To: Ouderkirk

My other big complaint with HP is their flaky drivers.

They always need local machine admin rights on my laptops. I know part is the various internal group and security policies but I don’t have problems so much with other brands.

The good life living work from home crowd buys their own printers. IT(me) only installs drivers. Thankfully no other support. Everyone knows that’s all. It breaks, their problem.

I always ask anyone who gets a new laptop what printer they use and I install drivers before the unit hits the domain. Regular admin rights work after that for any later stuff.


65 posted on 05/13/2023 6:28:21 PM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: wally_bert

HP - Has Problems.
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I installed a black HP cartridge in January 2022, but kept the color cartridges already in the printer.

Recently they basically shut down my printer and told me that I was using non-HP cartridges. I called technical support, and informed them that I only used the cartridges they sent. I had to take the cartridges out of my printer and read what was printed on each cartridge.

I also asked why I had not received ink for over a year, and informed them again that I had not put any generic cartridges in my printer.

They then sent me new cartridges, and after they were on the way they sent me an email that told me I would soon reach the limit of pages I was allowed to print during April, and that I would be charged an additional amount for the number over the limit.

It seems that that the pages not printed during the last twelve or so month did no roll over.

HP needs to think about what they’re doing, and how they ate alienating owners. They may end up like Bud Lite, with no users.

Soon they may be monitoring what you print. Talk about Big Brother Tech getting out of control.


66 posted on 05/13/2023 6:28:56 PM PDT by Yulee
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I’m with you!
I have the same Epson printer.

What I like is you can let it sit and not print anything for a year and it will still print when needed.

I’ve done it.

Ink cartridges always gave me problems if the machine sat for too long!😡
(like a month)


67 posted on 05/13/2023 6:32:24 PM PDT by justme4now (Our Right's are God given and I don't need permission from politicians or courts to exercise them!)
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To: algore

This is why I got rid of my HP printer. Getting into their “Instant Ink” program is a trap. When the printer ceased to work, HP actually wanted me to return any unused ink cartridges. I told them where they could get off and tossed their cartridges into a bin. Now I have a different brand of printer and I put whatever brand of cartridge I want into it. Works fine.


68 posted on 05/13/2023 6:46:52 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: algore

Have never encountered that problem with the many Cannon Ink Jet printers I have owned.


69 posted on 05/13/2023 7:47:23 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: algore

More likely is that you would have to pay the EV manufacturer a monthly fee to enable “fast” charging. Otherwise it would take overnight to fully charge.

(I say this based on what I’ve read about performance options on some new vehicles requiring a monthly fee for activation.)


70 posted on 05/13/2023 8:33:35 PM PDT by powerset
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To: eyeamok

I’m happy with my various Kyocera laser printers.


71 posted on 05/13/2023 8:50:45 PM PDT by curious7
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To: wally_bert

I have a very nice now discontinued HP *laser* printer, the P2055dn. It is B/W only, but is fast and does duplexing (the ‘d’ in ‘dn’) very nicely. It can connect via Ethernet (the ‘n’ in ‘dn’), but I only use its USB connectivity, as that eliminates the possibility of an on-LAN malicious bot.

Thankfully, it *doesn’t* support WiFi, which makes it even more secure. (I worry that WiFi enabled devices could find a nearby open access point and report back to whomever.)

I got it mainly because HP printers work well with Linux (some other brands don’t), and there are Open Source drivers for it. (Helps avoid any HP funny business.)

I have been quite happy with it. A laser printer is much better than inkjet for most printing, unless you are doing color photographic work. (I also have a now discontinued Epson R2880 which uses 8 inks and handles paper 13” wide, but I almost never use it any more.)

The P2055dn was on sale, and I traded in my old HP 4M, which had no duplexing and was slow, but had builtin Postscript. It had worked reliably for well over 10 years. (The 4M had cost a lot more than the list price of the P2055dn because in the early 1990s Postscript was not cheap to do.)


72 posted on 05/13/2023 9:27:26 PM PDT by powerset
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To: algore

I trashed my first and only HP printer years ago because of this issue. So it’s not new for some models.


73 posted on 05/13/2023 9:51:15 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: algore; All

Dumb move. Printer sales will nose dive.


74 posted on 05/13/2023 10:27:02 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: billorites

What are you saying?

I do not believe you.

Flat out. I live here and do not believe you.


75 posted on 05/13/2023 10:37:16 PM PDT by cba123 (Tôi là người Mỹ. Hiện tôi đang ở Việt Nam)
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To: wally_bert

Buy your oem ink or the lower cost but as good as oem re-manufactured ink at https://www.4inkjets.com

I have used them since 2007 and the re-manufactured ink is just as good. Sometimes if my Epson inkjet will not recognize the non oem cartridge I just run the steps to clean and it will recognize then.


76 posted on 05/14/2023 12:51:11 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

I only ever owned one Canon product, an ink-jet printer, and I will never own another.

First, it died after a few days. The store wouldn’t take it back and told me to contact Canon. They said I would have to haul it down to their location in center city Philadelphia.

I tore it apart and found an internal cable not firmly plugged in. That fixed the immediate problem, but then I discovered the ink evaporated quickly while the printer sat unused. It was probably designed to do that.

The store eventually and deservedly collapsed (Comp USA). The printer eventually went in the trash.

Apart from the ink issue, HP ink-jets were generally fine, but I didn’t like the fact that even if the black cartridge had ink in it, the printer wouldn’t print in black if a color cartridge was empty.

I will never again buy anything made by Canon, and I doubt I will ever buy another ink-jet.


77 posted on 05/14/2023 12:59:18 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Soros on assisting the Nazis with the Holocaust: "That's when my character was made.")
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To: minnesota_bound

Much appreciated but no ink jet printer here in about 10 years.


78 posted on 05/14/2023 4:10:24 AM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: algore

We recently dumped our HP printer as it ran through ink cartridges at an alarming rate. Despite only doing only occasional printing we were constantly running out of ink. Even HP extra capacity black cartridges seemed to run out after only a few pages. We had dumped a previous HP printer when the ink cartridges simply were no longer available.

We did our homework when we bought our current printer opting for a Canon that uses liquid ink in reservoir tanks. All the reviews we read said the ink capacity was phenomenal and for typical users like us should last at least a year. We have hardly used even a fraction not our ink reservoirs when by now we would be scrambling to get new cartridges


79 posted on 05/14/2023 6:48:33 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Pocketdoor

I gave up on my cannon printer...

I hurled my Canon printer out the door onto the concrete. It felt so good! I only need an occasional B&W print so I bought a Brother mono laser printer. So far so good. It’s on a shelf in my closet. If I need it it wakes up, does its job and goes back to sleep.


80 posted on 05/14/2023 7:01:52 AM PDT by OSHA (Dale Carnegie has a restraining order against me.)
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