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These 6 states will determine the 2024 presidential election
The Hill ^ | February 23, 2023 | MYRA ADAMS

Posted on 04/22/2023 7:30:46 PM PDT by DoodleBob

The question Republicans are asking is: Can Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) win the White House in 2024? A better, more precise question is: Can he win suburban voters in Pennsylvania?

It’s a question all prospective GOP primary candidates should answer. Suburbanites are swing voters, while urban dwellers trend Democratic and rural residents are overwhelmingly Republican. Therefore, in battleground Pennsylvania, the candidate who captures the suburban vote increases his or her chances of winning the state’s 19 electoral votes to reach the 270 votes required to win the presidency.

Thus, for Republicans itching to win back the White House, the eventual nominee must appeal to suburban voters in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, North Carolina, Arizona and Georgia. Winning or losing these six states reduces the 2024 presidential election to its simplest form. But the likelihood of a winning combination is stacked against the GOP. Why? The answer is challenging Electoral College math along with some reality checks.

Now don’t expect GOP candidates to explain why or how they will win these six critical states before or during the primary season. When the “electability factor” is raised, it’s usually about winning in general. And Republican primary voters can expect to hear variations of “Fighting to save America” and “Let’s take our country back.” Unfortunately, slogans about uniting America are past their sell by date since “uniting” means compromise, which, in the eyes of many Americans, equates to surrender.

Note that the current leading Republican primary candidate, former President Trump, won the six states and the presidency in 2016. But in 2020 he lost five of them (which explains the “former” title). Reversing his losses requires new policies and broader (dare I say moderate?) appeal from a nominee who catches fire among independents in addition to a young and diverse electorate willing to vote for a new White House occupant. Does that candidate exist?

An undisputed political fact is that the Republican base alone cannot elect a president. (Same for the Democratic base.) Yet, the depth of national polarization is illustrated by how both parties begin the 2024 race with a list of likely red or blue states spread across the Electoral College map.

If a party won a state over the last two presidential elections, it is deemed as being the “likely” winner in 2024. After the 2020 election and census, the likely red states provide 219 electoral votes, including Texas, Ohio and Florida. Democrats have 232 votes from likely blue states. Hence, with a total of 538 electoral votes — 87 are battleground votes spread across six states.

So now, let’s examine those six states, starting with the most likely to be named the 2024 “mother of all battlegrounds,” even though it was “red” over the last three presidential elections.

North Carolina: The 2020 census increased its electoral votes from 15 to 16. North Carolina’s economic and population growth supplements the voter rolls with young, skilled, educated residents who tend to be more progressive and racially diverse. Meanwhile, retirees migrating from northern or midwestern states provide some balance.

The state’s movement from solid red began in 2008 when Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) squeezed out a 0.3 percentage-point win over Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). Then from 2012 to 2020, North Carolina reverted to red, but it was always close. In 2016, Trump won by a more generous 3.6 percentage points, but his 2020 win was by only 1.3 points. Considering the GOP’s narrow electoral path in 2024, North Carolina is a “must-win” — a status once granted to Ohio and Florida.

Georgia: The GOP’s shocking loss of the state’s 16 electoral votes in 2020 guarantees that the next Republican nominee will become one with Georgians. In 2016, Trump won by 5.2 percentage points, only to lose by 0.2 points in 2020. So, was it Trump or a more general trend toward blue?

Arizona: Here is another 2020 red-to-blue shocker that is either a one-off or a blue presidential trend. For the electoral math equation, the GOP must win back Arizona’s 11 electoral votes that Trump lost by 0.3 percentage points after winning in 2016 by 3.6 points. But Arizona is not a must-win for Democrats because of the cushion that follows.

Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania: The three “blue wall” states have voted in unison since 1992. The three states total 44 electoral votes, down from 46 in 2020, with Pennsylvania and Michigan each losing one vote.

In 2016 Trump unexpectedly won all three states by fractions that allowed him to reach 270. Then in 2020, Biden reclaimed the “blue wall.” Here are Trump and Biden’s percentage-point margins of victory:

Michigan 2016: 0.2 — 2020: 2.8

Wisconsin 2016: 0.7 — 2020: 0.7

Pennsylvania 2016: 0.7 — 2020: 1.2

In politics, always expect the unexpected, and historical voting data only acts as a guide. Nonetheless, the GOP nominee has a steep climb over the blue wall to win at least one of the three states, along with must-wins in Georgia, Arizona and North Carolina, to reach 272 electoral votes. (Wisconsin, the GOPs best bet, is represented in the 272 total.)

All this electoral math gaming precludes unexpected red or blue flips. Still, the 2024 Republican nominee must focus on these six states to reach 270. GOP primary voters should boldly ask whether their candidate can win these states or risk losing the White House.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2000ballots; 2000donations; 2000mules; ballotfraud; cheating; donatedonaldtrump; donatetrump; electionfraud; electoralcollege; horserace; lol; lolol; myraadams; potus2024; votefraud
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Here's the map from 2020. Notwithstanding a modest Republican Census-driven 3 electoral college vote pickup, here is THE question for Trump or DeSantis - how are you going to flip 38+ electoral votes, dude?

Yea, I get it....the Dems don't play fair. Neither did the Japanese or Nazis, yet we won WWII.

Don't tell me about fraud.

Don't whine about Dominion.

We won WWII because great men and strategists took Normandy, despite many headwinds.

If Trump or DeSantis cannot tell us how the f they're going to flip these states, they don't deserve the nomination.

1 posted on 04/22/2023 7:30:46 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

The state’s don’t need to be flipped.

Their elections need to be secured.

Trump has already stated what needs to happen.

Perhaps DeSantis can explain why in Florida’s case it hasn’t.


2 posted on 04/22/2023 7:33:50 PM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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Trump has already stated what needs to happen.

1. What did he say needs to happen?

2. How is he gonna do it?

3 posted on 04/22/2023 7:36:33 PM PDT by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Get rid of mail-in, early voting, RCV, etc...

We know what has to be done.

Our pols refuse to do it.


4 posted on 04/22/2023 7:39:45 PM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla
"Trump has already stated what needs to happen."

What is that, and where has "what needs to happen" actually happened?

"Perhaps DeSantis can explain why in Florida’s case it hasn’t."

What is it that other states have done -- and WHICH other states? -- that hasn't been done in Florida? What exactly has DeSantis failed to do in Florida that has been done successfully elsewhere?

Which GOP Governors are ahead of the curve on this issue, and what have they done? Who should we be looking to for a tangible example of how "secure elections" work?

5 posted on 04/22/2023 7:41:11 PM PDT by PermaRag (Joo Biden is not my President)
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To: DoodleBob

The GOP needs to get into the ballot harvesting game.


6 posted on 04/22/2023 7:42:55 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: DoodleBob

As things stand now, George Soros and Jeff Bezos will determine who wins in 2024...


7 posted on 04/22/2023 7:44:48 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: DoodleBob
Don't tell me about fraud.

Until you understand the Obama 2008 Vote Fraud Detection Tool, I can't help ya.

8 posted on 04/22/2023 7:45:22 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: PermaRag

Trump has already said it.

Get rid of early voting, mail-in voting, RCV, RCV-enabled voting machines, any excuse absentee, et al...

I don’t know if he’s mentioned the adjudication rate issues, but we all know about those right?

And about states and locales that refuse to obey their own election laws.

We all know what has to be done.

Our pols will not do it.

What do we do now?


9 posted on 04/22/2023 7:47:15 PM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: DoodleBob

It’s 6 to 8 ‘Rat Counties, just like before.


10 posted on 04/22/2023 7:48:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DoodleBob

Well, we can count on Kemp to deliver the Georgia vote to Biden (or whatever democrat they plan to name later).


11 posted on 04/22/2023 7:48:28 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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"We won WWII because great men and strategists took Normandy, despite many headwinds."

Are you suggesting we use an organized force with firearms and other weaponry to win what was stolen from us in 2018, 2020 and 2022 in 2024 ?

12 posted on 04/22/2023 7:48:29 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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General, the enemy is cheating.

Well, Lieutenant, tell the troops they should commence complaining. The good news is, I always wanted to learn German.


13 posted on 04/22/2023 7:49:54 PM PDT by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: CFW

Just like he delivered both Senate seats to the Demonrats.


14 posted on 04/22/2023 7:50:23 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

No.


15 posted on 04/22/2023 7:50:26 PM PDT by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: kiryandil

DeSantis is more likely to flip them back to red.

Trump won in ‘16. Carried those states. If he can’t take them back in ‘24 it’s the voters fault. Trump was a successful POTUS-very successful. If the voters don’t know that the country is finished. Can we still win WITH the cheating? If not it’s still on the voters.


16 posted on 04/22/2023 7:51:32 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DoodleBob

Yeah but in ww2 nobody got nervous when we shot at the enemy. If McConnell were in charge then wed have to ask permission to use the beaches for D day


17 posted on 04/22/2023 7:51:47 PM PDT by Cowman
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“Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, North Carolina, Arizona and Georgia”

Five of the six is where there was definite ballot fraud in 2020. I’m not sure about North Carolina and can’t remember the results there but I wouldn’t doubt that fraud was an issue. If not in 2020, maybe that’s the next one to add to the democrat’s ballot-fraud list of states and the purpose of this article is to just set expectations.


18 posted on 04/22/2023 7:52:11 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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Hahahhahaa....whoo hoo...lol....by “six states” do they mean deep state? Because THAT’S who determines who will win the next election and it ain’t gonna be anybody who loves what America used to be.


19 posted on 04/22/2023 7:52:44 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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I will be eternally grateful that you showed up in 2017 to freepsplain politics to us ignerant FR old-timers, DoodleBob...


20 posted on 04/22/2023 7:53:56 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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