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It’s about to become harder for lawless FBI agents to seize innocent Americans’ life savings…
Revolver News ^ | 4/15/23 | staff

Posted on 04/16/2023 9:06:06 AM PDT by CFW

There are countless innocent Americans across the nation who are victims of the unfair, lawless seizure of their of their private property, compliments of the disgraced FBI. This is happening a lot more often than you may realize.

So, what exactly is the FBI up to now?

Well, one very public incident in Beverly Hills back in 2021 is a perfect example of what the FBI has been engaging in, and how brazen and greedy the are when it comes to other people’s money.

Back in 2021, the FBI asked for permission to remove hundreds of safe deposit boxes from a business in Beverly Hills. They were granted permission, but with very strict limits. The FBI was told they could seize the boxes, but the judge said they had to return what was inside to the owners.

Sounds reasonable enough… but of course, things didn’t go as planned.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: corruption; crime; doj; donutwatch; fbi; seizure; theft; thieves
One issue on which SCOTUS has consistently failed to properly address is sovereign immunity for public officials who fail to uphold their oath to the Constitution. FBI shouldn't have to have been shown to previously know that something they are doing is wrong. Regular citizens do not have that luxury.

When Courts regularly issues opinions stating that "Well, the FBI officials had no way of knowing that it was against the law to steal money while executing a search warrant which they lied to obtain" and thus sovereign immunity applies, you have serious problems with both the Court and the agency.

1 posted on 04/16/2023 9:06:06 AM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

Here is a couple of links from Reason articles on this matter.

https://reason.com/2021/05/10/the-fbi-seized-heirlooms-coins-and-cash-from-hundreds-of-safe-deposit-boxes-in-beverly-hills-despite-knowing-some-belonged-to-honest-citizens/

https://reason.com/2021/07/29/fbi-seized-900000-from-safe-deposit-box-on-pure-conjecture-federal-judge-says/

And one from Fox News.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-took-life-savings-now-fighting-help-others-get-back


2 posted on 04/16/2023 9:09:19 AM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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To: CFW

Why do I doubt this?


3 posted on 04/16/2023 9:15:08 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: CFW

Law enforcement in the USA have been granted letters of marque, except instead of those letters allowing them to seize the property of enemy nations, they allow them to seize the property of the citizenry.


4 posted on 04/16/2023 9:17:17 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: CFW
What a poorly written article. The author claims "It’s about to become harder for lawless FBI agents to seize innocent Americans’ life savings" but in reality U.S Representatives Tim Walberg (R-MI) and Jamie Raskin (D-MD) just reintroduced the Fifth Amendment Integrity Restoration Act, H.R. 2857. There is no "about" there. It's a good idea, but the author way oversold how close it is to being implemented.

Additionally, he quoted Walberg with out saying who he was or referencing the House resolution number.

5 posted on 04/16/2023 9:24:48 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago )
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To: CFW

he FBI asked for permission to remove hundreds of safe deposit boxes from a business in Beverly Hills.

The parallels between that debacle and getting a warrant to seize “stuff” from MarALago are uncanny.

I can almost recite the 4th Amendment, verbatim....clearly states....particularly describing the items to be seized and the places it can be found.

Particularly describing the item(s) to be seized.....I’m looking for a stolen car

The places it can be found....I can’t search the drawers of in someone’s bedroom.

At least that’s the way it’s supposed to be.

Years ago, a friend that worked for the DEA said they would go to the US Post Office, FedEx, etc and run drug dogs through them to find the drugs, get a warrant and then do a controlled delivery.

That practice was stopped by a judge, who said it was a fishing expedition. After the practice was stopped, they would go to mailrooms based on a tip or information provided to them by an informant. He stated that the odors were overwhelming. Once the bad guys knew that the chances of their packages being intercepted were reduced to, basically, ZERO, it was wide open.


6 posted on 04/16/2023 9:29:48 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: CFW

This is long overdue, but from the description of the bill I can’t tell if it addresses one of the biggest problems with current forfeiture laws. That problem is the legal theory that it is the property itself, and not its owner, that is in essence being “charged” with a crime, and therefore since property has no constitutional rights no probable cause or warrant is necessary. That absurd practice must be stopped. It’s one of the reasons it’s so difficult to get improperly seized assets back.


7 posted on 04/16/2023 9:31:22 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Boogieman
This is a big racket for local and state police. They get a big chunk of all money they confiscate. Carrying a large amount of money isn't a crime. $50K isn't a lot of money if a person saved it over a long period of time. The police will take it from a person and then the person has to fight an uphill battle to try to get their money back. It's un American.
8 posted on 04/16/2023 9:50:18 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party)
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To: noiseman

That problem is the legal theory that it is the property itself, and not its owner, that is in essence being “charged” with a crime, and therefore since property has no constitutional rights no probable cause or warrant is necessary.
= = =

Near Bakersfield, CA, they charged a Combine Harvester with killing some endangered ground squirrels.

Why have they not used this ‘theory’ on guns yet?

They talk like the guns do the crime.

Maybe the gun has relatively low value, and charging the ‘gun’ lets the shooter off??


9 posted on 04/16/2023 10:01:19 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob
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To: CFW

The United States Constitution already protects the property owners from illegal seizures. The FBI agents should be charged and prosecuted for theft of property.


10 posted on 04/16/2023 10:05:46 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: nickcarraway

Because if they Want Ya
They’ll get Ya!


11 posted on 04/16/2023 10:45:55 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: nickcarraway
That the FBI did this or that they are going to be prevented from doing this in the future?

Because the first one is pretty well documented but on the second I will totally agree with you.

12 posted on 04/16/2023 10:59:50 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: ScottfromNJ

“”The FBI agents should be charged and prosecuted for theft of property.””

There are no rules, regulations or laws for democRATS or DemocKKKrats. Rules, regulations and laws are for ‘others.’ With no conscience or soul, anything is possible. Sex with very young children is called ‘love.’ Forcing permanent surgery on the very young has become a ‘right.’ If everyone you know or talk to is evil, evil becomes the norm.


13 posted on 04/16/2023 2:58:23 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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