Posted on 01/21/2023 8:47:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
What does Cuba have to do with anything?
NATO is Europe and they formed a defensive alliance against the evil empire-building Russians, and they support their next-door neighbor and fellow European nation, Ukraine.
I can’t believe we have to deal with this pro-Russia/anti-America propaganda you guys put out
“I don’t know but I heard he was a waiter at the last supper.”
no, he was a bus boy. Don’t make him older than he is.
Well, you're a zeeper so... there's that.
BTW, it is noted that you didn’t refute any of the 22 paragraphs...
But you’re a zeeper, so...
Everything devolves into something sexual for you people. You all must still be in middle school.
One of my favorite movies. An absolute cl;assic.
It’s you pro-Ukies who are anti-American, you are supporting everything the Dems, Soros, and the deep state wants. Even the prospect of WW3 doesn’t deter you reckless idiots. Make sure you sign your grand kids up for the draft, we will be running out of Ukrainians pretty soon.
> Our bitch about Cuba in the 1960s was that the Soviet Union had introduced offensive nuclear missiles into Cuba <
Well, yes. Just as the United States had previously introduced offensive nuclear missiles into Turkey. Before anyone gets all worked up, I’m not saying that we were wrong to put missiles in Turkey, or that the Soviets were right to put missiles in Cuba.
We were the good guys of that era and the communists were the bad guys. Period. My point is simply that it is an error to make policy without considering how other nations might react.
That doesn’t mean we should defer to those nations! It does mean that their reactions must be part of the equation. Just like in chess.
“It does mean that their reactions must be part of the equation. Just like in chess.”
They always are. The problem is one’s prediction of another’s actions are not always what that other is actually contemplating.
Tell that to the 101st Airborne and all of the vast thousands of our GIs who are working feverishly to get the munitions and intelligence and weapons to the Ukrainian army, who are training the Ukrainian military, who are on exercises on NATO borders to protect us from your side.
Tell it to president Trump who sent weapons to Ukraine and who wants them to get “jets and more”, who wants to send our nuclear subs to threaten Putin into ending his nuke threats.
> I can’t believe we have to deal with this pro-Russia/anti-America propaganda you guys put out <
I find my conversation here with you to be mostly interesting. And heck, I might even learn something. But I noted quite clearly earlier that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is a war crime, and Putin is a war criminal.
So I am puzzled by your remark there. Perhaps you misunderstood me. I hope it’s not because you want to jump to conclusions, and trade insults. If it’s the former, okay. If it’s the latter, then this conversation should end.
Sadly true.
“”Well, yes. Just as the United States had previously introduced offensive nuclear missiles into Turkey. Before anyone gets all worked up, I’m not saying that we were wrong to put missiles in Turkey, or that the Soviets were right to put missiles in Cuba.””
Actually, that seems to be your basic position, you keep arguing it.
“to protect us from your side”
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My side? My side is America and its interests, and I don’t consider WW3 to be in our interests at all. And my father was 101st Airborne, but since he’s now deceased I can’t tell him anything, but I’m sure the rest of the 101st aren’t looking forward to facing Russian artillery.
This isn’t going to be the US fighting a minor power in the mideast, we are going to suffer many more casualties going against Russia. We lost 65,000 or so in 21 years we were in Vietnam, we’d lose that many in 2-3 months fighting Russia. I wonder how those in the 101st feel about dying to preserve Ukraine’s borders? I doubt they’ll be happy about it.
If you support us, then you would not be supporting the enemy.
Jane Fonda was also doing it for the greater good in her mind, by her personal judgment that America was on the wrong side.
I hope that your dad would be proud that president Trump reactivated V Corps and moved its European headquarters closer to the Russian threat, by moving it to Poland, and it is currently manned by the 101st Airborne.
“Never trust Kissinger!”
He was Klaus Schawbs mentor.
Who had to refute any of it! Big Schmo did it to himself!
"Oh my gawd the huge manatee it's Verdun all over again Ukraine is on the ropes they're completely depleted they're trapped they're finished."And on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on ... but WAIT: "It'll take two months." LOFL! Get a new pair of glasses.
By the way, America and the 29 other countries of NATO are not fighting Russians and have no intention of doing so, so relax.
Little Ukraine seems to be handling Russia.
No. He did not.
But the emotional Zeeper mind is jumpy.
Ukraine won’t exist, the longer this goes on. Therefore, it can’t join NATO.
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