Posted on 01/02/2023 6:31:40 AM PST by AbolishCSEU
It took three years for New York City landlords to remove squatter tenants who refused to leave and refused to allow them into the property. The squatters extensively damaged the property but were finally removed by the police. Unfortunately, building inspectors immediately began issuing citations following the eviction totaling $5,000.
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Another taxman money grab.
I am not a vigilante type, but if this property was mine, me and a couple buds would have cleaned it out long ago..
$5000 was cheap to get rid of those people. Pay it and be grateful.
You get what you vote for.
This is the business of government. One failure ensures the success of another. In this case, the criminal justice system fails. That allows building inspectors to succeed. There’s instance after instance of this at all levels of government. Just think about how the failure at our southern border contributes to the success of so many other governments scumbags.
Yes…keep voting and cheating Blue Rat…
Back in ancient times, the early seventies, my sister worked for New York State auditing New York City welfare roles, when anyone cared. One of her coworkers, a large and aggressive young man was also a landlord. He had a deadbeat tenant and knew is would take years to evict him by going to housing court. So went to a stationary store (quaint old institution) and purchased a bunch of authentic looking seals and documents and made a do-it-yourself eviction notice, which he served on the tenant, as he cleared his belongings onto the sidewalk and changed the locks.
Unsurprisingly, the tenant called the cops. The tenant explained the situation to the police when they arrived. They asked if he a utility bill or any evidence that he actually lived in the apartment. He did not. They asked if he had a cancelled rent check. He said that he didn't pay rent. They told him it was a civil matter, and they could take him to court. (I don't know how it ended up.)
Possession is 90% of the ownership. Once the squatter was removed, the landlord got the possession and situation changed 180 degrees. Now it was the tenant turn to prove his point!
No, you would not. Internet braggadocio. Because, if you tried, you’d be in jail, properties confiscated, etc.
I agree. but it sure would feel good.
Is it against the Constitution for the government to fine you for anything they want? I don’t think so. I have always questioned fines the government imposes in business and where that money goes. Someone’s pocket I’m sure but 9 times out of 10 not to the victims.
Building inspectors; now there’s a gang known for their integrity.
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Is it against the Constitution for the government to fine you for anything they want?
Some seem to miss that the $5000 fine isn’t the end of the matter. The landlords are going to have to spend more money repairing the damage that the squatters did. Obviously recovering damages from the squatters is a fool’s errand. When you got nothin’ you’ve got nothin’ to lose.
‘Vigilante’ is a bureaucratic word for those who would oppose the state in dispensing righteous justice.
Stating the obvious: There’s right & wrong, and NYC is in left field on this (go figure)...to state nothing of the fact that it took THREE YEARS to accomplish getting them out. The fine is insult to injury.
Agreed on having ‘cleaned it out long ago’...
Honestly I’d say yes. It’s your building. If you’re not paying enough attention to it for squatters to move in and get entrenched that’s really on you. Ownership also includes responsibility.
Obviously you’ve never been a landlord. In NY the tenants/squatters have all the rights, eviction moratoriums, etc. You’d need to hire armed guards 24/7 to keep squatters from entering as do some Los Angeles county landlords do.
Then they shouldn’t do it. Really the math is simple:
If you buy the property you have to follow the rules and take care of the situations
If you can’t afford to
Or don’t want to
Everything that happens then is on you.
I got no sympathy for anybody that lets their building go derelict. I don’t care about the laws. Because the fact that MOST people manage to not their buildings go derelict in the same area shows the problem isn’t the laws, it’s the owners. They didn’t take care of their stuff and now they’re whining.
$5000 was cheap to get rid of those people. Pay it and be grateful.
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$5000.00 is not cheap to get rid of someone. When someone violates the lease or the lease is up they need to leave without being coerced or forced. I am a landlord. Every once in a while I will have to take a tenant to court and have them evicted. When the court says I cannot evict them for this or that reason or says they can be forced out in some number of weeks or months so that they have time to find a place to live and move, then it turns out that I am paying their rent. What right does the government have to make me pay their rent. If the court said ok, they have this much time to leave and the court will pay their rent until they do leave and then pay for whatever they tore up then I would be a little better with it.
The court will simply tell me to take them to civil court and sue them. I will be able to get a judgement in civil court but will never collect. Nobody enforces, or at least seldom enforces the judgments of civil court.
I did get lucky one time. I evicted a woman once who tore the house up before she left, literally tearing huge holes in all the drywall. I took her to court but she didn’t show up. I got a judgment against her but she didn’t pay. Several years later she got a speeding ticket and they saw her unpaid judgment and put her in jail. It was strange I got this letter from the court with a check for the judgment amount. One of my kids was a cop and found out what had happened. I really enjoyed that check.
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