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Europe accuses US of profiting from war
Politico ^ | NOVEMBER 24, 2022 | BARBARA MOENS, JAKOB HANKE VELA AND JACOPO BARIGAZZI

Posted on 11/25/2022 11:20:41 AM PST by Mount Athos

Nine months after invading Ukraine, Vladimir Putin is beginning to fracture the West.

Top European officials are furious with Joe Biden’s administration and now accuse the Americans of making a fortune from the war, while EU countries suffer.

“The fact is, if you look at it soberly, the country that is most profiting from this war is the U.S. because they are selling more gas and at higher prices, and because they are selling more weapons,” one senior official told POLITICO.

The explosive comments — backed in public and private by officials, diplomats and ministers elsewhere — follow mounting anger in Europe over American subsidies that threaten to wreck European industry. The Kremlin is likely to welcome the poisoning of the atmosphere among Western allies.

“We are really at a historic juncture,” the senior EU official said, arguing that the double hit of trade disruption from U.S. subsidies and high energy prices risks turning public opinion against both the war effort and the transatlantic alliance. “America needs to realize that public opinion is shifting in many EU countries.”

The EU’s chief diplomat Josep Borrell called on Washington to respond to European concerns. “Americans — our friends — take decisions which have an economic impact on us,” he said in an interview with POLITICO.

The biggest point of tension in recent weeks has been Biden’s green subsidies and taxes that Brussels says unfairly tilt trade away from the EU and threaten to destroy European industries. Despite formal objections from Europe, Washington has so far shown no sign of backing down.

At the same time, the disruption caused by Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is tipping European economies into recession, with inflation rocketing and a devastating squeeze on energy supplies threatening blackouts and rationing this winter.

As they attempt to reduce their reliance on Russian energy, EU countries are turning to gas from the U.S. instead — but the price Europeans pay is almost four times as high as the same fuel costs in America. Then there’s the likely surge in orders for American-made military kit as European armies run short after sending weapons to Ukraine.

It's all got too much for top officials in Brussels and other EU capitals. French President Emmanuel Macron said high U.S. gas prices were not “friendly” and Germany’s economy minister has called on Washington to show more “solidarity” and help reduce energy costs.

Ministers and diplomats based elsewhere in the bloc voiced frustration at the way Biden’s government simply ignores the impact of its domestic economic policies on European allies.

When EU leaders tackled Biden over high U.S. gas prices at the G20 meeting in Bali last week, the American president simply seemed unaware of the issue, according to the senior official quoted above. Other EU officials and diplomats agreed that American ignorance about the consequences for Europe was a major problem.

"The Europeans are discernibly frustrated about the lack of prior information and consultation," said David Kleimann of the Bruegel think tank.

Officials on both sides of the Atlantic recognize the risks that the increasingly toxic atmosphere will have for the Western alliance. The bickering is exactly what Putin would wish for, EU and U.S. diplomats agreed.

The growing dispute over Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) — a huge tax, climate and health care package — has put fears over a transatlantic trade war high on the political agenda again. EU trade ministers are due to discuss their response on Friday as officials in Brussels draw up plans for an emergency war chest of subsidies to save European industries from collapse.

"The Inflation Reduction Act is very worrying," said Dutch Trade Minister Liesje Schreinemacher. "The potential impact on the European economy is very big."

"The U.S. is following a domestic agenda, which is regrettably protectionist and discriminates against U.S. allies," said Tonino Picula, the European Parliament's lead person on the transatlantic relationship.

An American official stressed the price setting for European buyers of gas reflects private market decisions and is not the result of any U.S. government policy or action. "U.S. companies have been transparent and reliable suppliers of natural gas to Europe," the official said. Exporting capacity has also been limited by an accident in June that forced a key facility to shut down.

In most cases, the official added, the difference between the export and import prices doesn't go to U.S. LNG exporters, but to companies reselling the gas within the EU. The largest European holder of long-term U.S. gas contracts is France's TotalEnergies for example.

It’s not a new argument from the American side but it doesn’t seem to be convincing the Europeans. "The United States sells us its gas with a multiplier effect of four when it crosses the Atlantic," European Commissioner for the Internal Market Thierry Breton said on French TV on Wednesday. "Of course the Americans are our allies ... but when something goes wrong it is necessary also between allies to say it."

Cheaper energy has quickly become a huge competitive advantage for American companies, too. Businesses are planning new investments in the U.S. or even relocating their existing businesses away from Europe to American factories. Just this week, chemical multinational Solvay announced it is choosing the U.S. over Europe for new investments, in the latest of a series of similar announcements from key EU industrial giants.

Allies or not? Despite the energy disagreements, it wasn't until Washington announced a $369 billion industrial subsidy scheme to support green industries under the Inflation Reduction Act that Brussels went into full-blown panic mode.

“The Inflation Reduction Act has changed everything," one EU diplomat said. "Is Washington still our ally or not?”

For Biden, the legislation is a historic climate achievement. "This is not a zero-sum game," the U.S. official said. "The IRA will grow the pie for clean energy investments, not split it."

But the EU sees that differently. An official from France’s foreign affairs ministry said the diagnosis is clear: These are "discriminatory subsidies that will distort competition.” French Economy Minister Bruno Le Maire this week even accused the U.S. of going down China's path of economic isolationism, urging Brussels to replicate such an approach. “Europe must not be the last of the Mohicans,” he said.

The EU is preparing its responses, such as a big subsidy push to prevent European industry from being wiped out by American rivals. "We are experiencing a creeping crisis of trust on trade issues in this relationship," said German MEP Reinhard Bütikofer.

"At some point, you have to assert yourself," said French MEP Marie-Pierre Vedrenne. "We are in a world of power struggles. When you arm-wrestle, if you are not muscular, if you are not prepared both physically and mentally, you lose.”

Behind the scenes, there is also growing irritation about the money flowing into the American defense sector.

The U.S. has by far been the largest provider of military aid to Ukraine, supplying more than $15.2 billion in weapons and equipment since the start of the war. The EU has so far provided about €8 billion of military equipment to Ukraine, according to Borrell.

According to one senior official from a European capital, restocking of some sophisticated weapons may take “years” because of problems in the supply chain and the production of chips. This has fueled fears that the U.S. defense industry can profit even more from the war.

The Pentagon is already developing a roadmap to speed up arms sales, as the pressure from allies to respond to greater demands for weapons and equipment grows.

Another EU diplomat argued that “the money they are making on weapons” could help Americans understand that making “all this cash on gas” might be “a bit too much.”

The diplomat argued that a discount on gas prices could help us to "keep united our public opinions” and to negotiate with third countries on gas supplies. “It’s not good, in terms of optics, to give the impression that your best ally is actually making huge profits out of your troubles,” the diplomat said.


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Europe has committed suicide. It has permanently weakened itself.

Huge amount of European industry will be moved to the USA

1 posted on 11/25/2022 11:20:41 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

“Selling more weapons “? Just who is paying for them?


2 posted on 11/25/2022 11:23:26 AM PST by marron
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To: Mount Athos

(Europe accuses US of profiting from war)

No way, dude!


3 posted on 11/25/2022 11:25:35 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Mount Athos
The biggest point of tension in recent weeks has been Biden’s green subsidies and taxes that Brussels says unfairly tilt trade away from the EU and threaten to destroy European industries. Despite formal objections from Europe, Washington has so far shown no sign of backing down.

I'm all for ending that yesterday.

4 posted on 11/25/2022 11:25:53 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Mount Athos

They’re going to think long and hard about who destroyed those pipelines, who is shelling a nuclear powerplant, who is executing prisoners, who interferes with diplomacy, who put them up to it.

And who their real enemy is.


5 posted on 11/25/2022 11:25:53 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Mount Athos

Euroweenies have made themselves the “Arsenal of hypocrisy” in this argument.


6 posted on 11/25/2022 11:33:07 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Mount Athos

Euroweenies can kiss my American loving ass.


7 posted on 11/25/2022 11:33:08 AM PST by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: Mount Athos

Guess the Euros are learning the hard way about how “ten percent for the big guy” works. Sorry, little sympathy. They all hated Trump, so they got what they wanted.


8 posted on 11/25/2022 11:35:31 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Mount Athos

Why are the Europeans surprised? Since WW II America’s business is war and business has rarely been this good.


9 posted on 11/25/2022 11:40:09 AM PST by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.c)
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To: Mount Athos

US is not making huge money from the Ukraine war. The weapons are being given away and a huge amount of money also to pay for the weapons and keeping Zelinsky fed. The money being made is US politicians who are getting kicked back a significant percentage of what is given away by those politicians and their influence on American government.

US weapons and money ==> Ukraine government
Ukraine money ==> US politicians (-10% for Big Guy)

European politicians are jealous of US politicians in how they get their kickbacks.


10 posted on 11/25/2022 11:41:00 AM PST by webheart
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To: Mount Athos
President Eisenhower was prescient.

5.56mm

11 posted on 11/25/2022 11:43:55 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go)
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To: Mount Athos
Ministers and diplomats based elsewhere in the bloc voiced frustration at the way Biden’s government simply ignores the impact of its domestic economic policies on European allies.

Started here first.

Biden’s government simply ignores the impact of its domestic economic policies on Americans. Biden screwed us over first.

12 posted on 11/25/2022 11:45:42 AM PST by roadcat
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To: Mount Athos
Amazing how fast the MIC found another 50-billion-plus-per-year money fountain, exactly right after the Afghanistan money fountain was turned off.


13 posted on 11/25/2022 11:51:56 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Europe accuses US of profiting from war

This "Well Duh" moment brought to you by Politico.

14 posted on 11/25/2022 11:52:11 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: M Kehoe; webheart

See 13. That Mauldin cartoon is most of a century old. Nothing has changed. Eisenhauer spoke the truth.


15 posted on 11/25/2022 11:53:00 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Mount Athos

The process of liquefying natural gas, shipping it, then regassifying it is costly....much costlier than sending natural gas through pipelines.

Of course, the Europeans were warned over and over and over again by American administrations going back to the 80s about the danger of allowing themselves to become too dependent on Russia for their energy needs. They just laughed. Well, they’re not laughing now.


16 posted on 11/25/2022 11:57:12 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: SaveFerris

“..Europe accuses US of profiting from war..”

Definitely not the US taxpayer - Americans are suffering greatly from high inflation and in other ways from this Biden caused war. Yes, military equipment manufactures are profiting, energy companies with higher pricing on reduced amounts are profiting, but the citizens are paying a terrible cost thanks to the no-good, no-count democrats and their lousy policies and wars.


17 posted on 11/25/2022 12:06:41 PM PST by elpadre (W )
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(Definitely not the US taxpayer)

I agree. We just foot the bill for war and for illegal invaders and every other Democrat agenda.


18 posted on 11/25/2022 12:11:31 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Travis McGee

Smedley Butler had their number.


19 posted on 11/25/2022 12:25:30 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Mount Athos

“Huge amount of European industry will be moved to the US”

The globalist plan is NOT to send business to the U.S. Our business and financial oligarchs don’t want that. We’re slated to become the third world.


20 posted on 11/25/2022 12:28:11 PM PST by dljordan (Ban 'And so it begins' on FR.)
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