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The West MUST Abandon Ukraine & Force Peace
Armstrong Economics ^ | 17 Nov 22 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 11/17/2022 1:19:25 PM PST by delta7

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To: delta7
This legendary great fool has the eyes to see the Russian talking points emailed to him.

There, I fixed it for you.

41 posted on 11/17/2022 2:52:20 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: MileHi

Off the Russian websites, Medved’s recent remark:

“Russia is ready to supply Poland with the best air defense systems to prevent further agression from Ukraine.” -this made my day! I can’t stop laughing!


42 posted on 11/17/2022 2:54:15 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7
I read the euro press and US newsfeeds: the US and Poles as well as Ukraine have been back and forth about whether it was a Russian vs. Ukrainian missile since it happened. The radar tracks would show two headed towards Poland. The pieces on the ground are dispositive but no one is talking.

Infrastructure attacks are far less damaging than they appear, as both German and Japanese experience from WWII show. Plus the Ukes have had months to disperse CCC and war production, and they certainly don't have a lack of enthusiasm unlike Russian forces.

What's really going on is a battle between factions of our own government and some European government who want a quick end to the war vs. those who want to see a significant Russian defeat. Milley (who predicted the Russians would take Kiev in 5 days) has pronounced the Ukrainians too weak to eject the Russians while Austin contradicts him and some US intel sources are still suggesting it was a Russian missile. The Scandinavians have just signed on for big military assistance packages and Poland, the Baltic states and some other Europeans are still all in. Powerful business interests in Germany and France want an end to sanctions against Russia.

And there wouldn't be any WWIII in any case, as a limited campaign simply to boot Russia's butt out of Ukraine would not be a threat to Russia's existence, and her means of conventional resistance as everyone can now see would be almost non-existent.

43 posted on 11/17/2022 2:55:30 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: delta7

Another massive Ukie grid attack- Ukraine is now effectively being “ de- energized “. Pray for the Ukrainian people, pray for proper leadership.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJSoIS6WF2k


44 posted on 11/17/2022 2:58:05 PM PST by delta7
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45 posted on 11/17/2022 3:01:07 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: pierrem15

I read the euro press and US newsfeeds:
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Your first mistake. Western news, try my favorite, Indian news for one. The Pentagon and Polish government has already announced it was not Russian missiles.


46 posted on 11/17/2022 3:02:24 PM PST by delta7
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To: mylife

He ran on a peace ticket, and peace is what the Ukrainian people wanted. He won 70% of the vote. But when he went to Zolote in October 2019 to try to get AZOV in line with the peace deal, they spanked him but good. It’s painful to watch the video. The real spanking starts around the 15:00 mark. (Zelensky: “I am the president. I am 41 years old. I am not some loser”):

https://m.facebook.com/zelenskiy.official/videos/2365247017058994/

I hoped he was serious about implementing Minsk. Perhaps he was to begin with, but got spanked out of it. Was his trip to Zolote all theater and he never intended peace? Or did he naively think he would be allowed to make peace? Both Zelensky and AZOV were wholly-owned subsidiaries of Kolomoisky. Was Kolomoisky using his fave enforcers to show Zelensky who really called the shots?

Whatever, a few months later and no more peace in Ukraine’s prospects.

In late September of 2019, he met with President Trump, who urged him to make peace (and pretty much told him Crimea was water under the bridge). Then Biden got elected ... and so much for Minsk. Short clip from Trump-Zelensky press conference:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A4zNHrEWY

Long version:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZD2uha74nc

Whatever, Vickie & Co. were slavering for war. Bye bye Minsk.


47 posted on 11/17/2022 3:04:28 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Chunga85
all without breaking a sweat

That should make the wives, children, and family of 80,000 dead Russians feel much better. They didn't sweat before they got ripped into pieces by Ukrainian artillery, grenades, and bullets.

Do they put "he didn't even sweat" on the plaques all over Russia?

48 posted on 11/17/2022 3:07:47 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: delta7

The Euro press is quite different than the American: it’s not yet the same monolithic bull you see in the US, although you can see the push for the same smothering globalist consensus in many sources.


49 posted on 11/17/2022 3:08:20 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: delta7
I can’t stop laughing!

agreed ... the idea that Russia's lousy AA systems could be in any way effective is hilarious


50 posted on 11/17/2022 3:08:30 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: kiryandil
The long line of Ukrainian Russian young men and boys waiting to be fed feet-first into the Russian Ukrainian artillery wood chipper will continue, for the amusement of Putin our neoconned proxy-war hooligans.

Fixed it for you. Autocorrect in Russia must be pretty busy these days trying to hide the Russian losses in Ukraine.

51 posted on 11/17/2022 3:11:44 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: delta7

Funny. Tweaked NATOs nose.


52 posted on 11/17/2022 3:13:48 PM PST by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: delta7
In which the FTX collapse was a primary contributor, of course the WESTERN corrupted media fails to connect the dots between FTX, Ukraine, and the Democrats.

FTX was a typically corrupt business which plied Democrats with campaign money to look the other way. Ukraine had very little involvement with what the FTX managers did.

53 posted on 11/17/2022 3:14:03 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: delta7

Note how this post “The long line of Ukrainian young men and boys waiting to be fed feet-first into the Russian artillery wood chipper will continue, for the amusement of our neoconned proxy-war hooligans” drove one of the neoconned proxy-war hooligans to apoplectic rage, forcing him to change the wording to relieve his sudden cognitive dissonance...


54 posted on 11/17/2022 3:19:12 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: freeandfreezing; delta7; JonPreston
into the Russian Ukrainian artillery wood chipper

Your post reminds me of the old jest:

If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs.

If we had eggs.

EUkrainians:

If we had some more artillery pieces, we could shell the Russians.

If we had artillery shells.     

55 posted on 11/17/2022 3:23:21 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: kiryandil
Note how the minute someone mentions negotiations, the zeepers that are drunk on the neokoolaid flounce in wearing their Giant War Clown Shoes.

So well put. Always looking for the Next New Thing. Always wrong.

56 posted on 11/17/2022 3:27:39 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston
Did someone say "The Next New Thing"?


57 posted on 11/17/2022 3:34:06 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: kiryandil
Ready the pitchforks. The natives are restless.


58 posted on 11/17/2022 3:46:36 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

The natives will warm themselves by the bonfire.


59 posted on 11/17/2022 3:49:26 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: delta7

Useful idiot.


60 posted on 11/17/2022 5:19:24 PM PST by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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