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Lawsuit Could End Free Preventive Health Checkups
Pew Research Center ^ | Aug 9, 2022 | Michael Ollove

Posted on 08/31/2022 1:37:04 PM PDT by fwdude

When Congress passed the Affordable Care Act in 2010, its authors cited three overarching goals: to improve access to health care, to slow rising medical costs and to improve health outcomes.

One of the main vehicles for achieving all three missions was a requirement that health insurers provide preventive health care services at no cost to patients. If there were no financial barriers, backers argued, patients would be more likely to get preventive services, from colonoscopies to vaccines to heart disease screenings, which would help keep people healthier and out of the hospital and, consequently, lower health care costs.

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The ACA provisions “make it impossible for these plaintiffs to purchase health insurance unless they agree to pay for preventive-care coverage that they do not want and do not need” and prevent them from buying less expensive health insurance without that coverage, [plaintiffs] argue.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aca; affordablecareact; homosexualagenda; medicare; preventivecheckup; preventivecheckups
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Let's hope this grows legs. What has to be covered is an endless leftist wish list of utterly non-scientific cr@p.
1 posted on 08/31/2022 1:37:04 PM PDT by fwdude
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At $25k annual premiums, it ain’t free — in fact, very far from free.


2 posted on 08/31/2022 1:41:01 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: fwdude

“its authors cited three overarching goals: to improve access to health care, to slow rising medical costs and to improve health outcomes.”

...uh...no. The overarching goals were to control health= control the people. Or lack thereof I should say.


3 posted on 08/31/2022 1:42:27 PM PDT by albie
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To: fwdude

I am very thankful for Obamacare. I was one of the few that could not get insurance..and would have been royally screwed with what came next for me in my health journey

Just finding out you have a very rare auto antibody took many many thousands of dollars.

Quest Lab does not provide discounts to people who dont have insurance. I had a test from Mayo that was almost $2000. The insurance company knocked it down 50%...but without insurance it would have been $2000 because it was done through Quest. Just an example.

For those that don’t want to buy Obamacare there is the Christian health ministry plans. I use one to cover my deductible. They have never denied a claim.

Ultalabs is running a sale on labs. I pay for them myself rather than fight with Doctors to get certain tests.


4 posted on 08/31/2022 1:47:56 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: fwdude
If the insurance company has to pay for it then the insurance buyer (whether individual or employer) has to pay for it plus a markup. The main advantage of the insurance company being involved is that they can contract for a certain price and avoid the ridiculous hospital list price. I had surgery for a list price of $24k, contract price of $8k with my portion being $2k of that. The insurance company paid $6000 (which was about my total premium for the year) but negotiated away $16,000.

If I could get the insurance company contracted rate for everything I might be willing to get a $10,000 deductible policy for catastrophic illness, but the government in their infinite wisdom says no, I cannot get that policy. Instead I must get one where I pay the insurance company to handle wellness visits.

5 posted on 08/31/2022 1:53:55 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The government sees you as either livestock or pet. If things get bad they will eat their pets too.)
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I am very thankful for Obamacare.

I hope you're also very thankful for the sky-high premiums and penalties which have resulted from it. A coworker was unwittingly hit with a $7,000 tax bill for not having "sufficient" insurance coverage. Ironically, he was a democrat.

6 posted on 08/31/2022 1:54:22 PM PDT by fwdude (Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians….” — Thomas Sowell)
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To: KarlInOhio
Instead I must get one where I pay the insurance company to handle wellness visits.

And, if you're a man, you get to pay for hysterectomies, sex-change surgeries, $25k-per-year HIV/AIDS treatments and a host of other completely unnecessary procedures which don't, and probably will never, apply to you.

7 posted on 08/31/2022 1:57:01 PM PDT by fwdude (Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians….” — Thomas Sowell)
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To: fwdude

Better than being on the hook for $175k and counting....

Obamacare doesnt fit everyone..but it fits me.

If I was healthy and young I wouldn’t want it.

The Christian Health Ministries are a good option but I just didn’t trust them to pay big payouts like a $100k surgery..and they don’t pay a million dollars for someone in a car accident in a coma


8 posted on 08/31/2022 1:58:11 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I’m glad you got what you needed from the programs, but it’s causing a lot of pain in others.

Most people I know who resorted to O-care couldn’t afford to make a claim on needed medical care because of the high co-pays. It was like they were without insurance at all.


9 posted on 08/31/2022 2:01:10 PM PDT by fwdude (Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians….” — Thomas Sowell)
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To: KarlInOhio

the amount of discounts is shocking to me.

I need a brain MRI. My insurance won’t approve it but if they did the discount is huge. Cash pay would not even come close unless you are under the federal poverty line.

BUT if you search around there are sometimes groups that do discounted MRIs. Like $299 with no contract but it is a 1T machine. I found someone with a 3t machine that does it for $600. But it won’t count towards my deductible.


10 posted on 08/31/2022 2:02:32 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: fwdude

For $200 bucks a month you can get Christian Health Ministries gold plan. They cover just about everything but the incident has to be $500 before discounts. A Drs visit and blood test just about gets you to that amount. The incident $$ amount can cover multiple dates

They even cover what Obamacare doesn’t . PRP injections


11 posted on 08/31/2022 2:06:15 PM PDT by RummyChick
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OH, I love the Christian healthcare ministries, and joined one myself several years ago when I was without insurance. They were a carve-out from the "personal mandate" fascism of the ACA until Trump came along and helped get rid of the penalty.

But given time, I think the left would have even abolished these ministries - by force.

12 posted on 08/31/2022 2:11:32 PM PDT by fwdude (Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians….” — Thomas Sowell)
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To: RummyChick

I used fubocare..
Last year my policy went up almost 500 bucks...
I called the provider direct..
Got the exact same policy...
600 bucks a month LESS than fubocare


13 posted on 08/31/2022 2:53:20 PM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: fwdude

“Free” - that should be in quotes, for realz.


14 posted on 08/31/2022 2:56:59 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: fwdude

But this will get repealed when repubs take over in 22 right?.....


15 posted on 08/31/2022 2:57:52 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: RummyChick

Some got the Obamacare over others losing their insurance. My premium doubled after it passed and couldn’t afford it, so I had to drop it.


16 posted on 08/31/2022 3:01:24 PM PDT by roving ( Pronouns- libs/suk)
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But this will get repealed when repubs take over in 22 right?.....

Not without veto-proof majorities. And even then....

17 posted on 08/31/2022 3:02:19 PM PDT by fwdude (Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians….” — Thomas Sowell)
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To: RummyChick

It all depends on whose ox is gored.
Thanks for outing yourself, Rummy, as one who is okay with the government forcing others to pay the costs of your illness.
Please don’t be inconsistent now and complain about taxes being too high, etc.


18 posted on 08/31/2022 3:02:28 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: fwdude
When Congress passed the Affordable Care Act in 2010, its authors cited three overarching goals: to improve access to health care, to slow rising medical costs and to improve health outcomes.

I got stuck right there. Congress better stop making goals for their programs. They NEVER meet their goals. The vast majority of time they make matters worse.

19 posted on 08/31/2022 3:08:32 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ( Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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To: Honest Nigerian

I have never been against providing for those that fit into the group that can’t get insurance. The reason I couldn’t get it? I had sleep apnea. No one would insure me. So I used short term health coverage until Obamacare came along.

I have absolutely no doubt that I am better of with Obamacare than short term health insurance.

But I recognize most here can’t fathom the thought of what it is like to not be able to get insurance and be at risk for what is coming down the pike..like surgeries, cancer, and very rare autoantibody that science doesn’t even really understand.


20 posted on 08/31/2022 3:12:34 PM PDT by RummyChick
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