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Ruby Ridge, 30 years ago, helps explain the FBI’s ‘Gestapo’ image
New York Post ^ | August 23, 2022 | James Bovard

Posted on 08/25/2022 9:52:14 AM PDT by TBP

In the wake of the massive raid at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home, politicians and pundits are hectoring Americans to blindly trust the FBI.

“The men and women of the FBI,” Attorney General Merrick Garland proclaimed, “are dedicated, patriotic public servants.” But the FBI would be more credible if it didn’t claim a right to secretly wield almost unlimited power.

Most Americans (53%) view the FBI as “Joe Biden‘s personal Gestapo,” a recent Rasmussen poll found. FBI actions 30 years ago at Ruby Ridge help explain the G-men’s fall from grace.

Randy Weaver and his family lived in an isolated cabin in the northern Idaho mountains. Undercover federal agents targeted him and entrapped him into selling a sawed-off shotgun. The feds sought to pressure Weaver to become an informant, but he refused.

After Weaver was sent the wrong court date and (understandably) failed to show up, the feds used any and all means to take him down. On Aug. 21, 1992, six US Marshals outfitted in full camouflage and toting automatic weapons trespassed onto Weaver’s property. Marshals circled close to the Weaver cabin and threw rocks to provoke the Weavers’ dogs.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; US: Idaho; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; barr; bureauofincest; bureauofincineration; bureauofineptitude; bureauofinfidelity; bureauofiniquity; corrupt; corruptocrats; creepstate; deepstate; doj; donutwatch; fbi; fib; fourthamendment; gestapo; idaho; jamesbovard; merrickgarland; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkpost; policestate; randyweaver; rubyridge; singlepartystate; williambarr
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The FBI has proven itself capable of killing anyone who doesn't cooperate with it. It has proven itself capable of lying to get a warrant. It has proven itself capable of setting up criminal activity just to imprison political opponents. Why should we believe they didn't do any of that to Trump?

Is that how things work in a free country?

1 posted on 08/25/2022 9:52:14 AM PDT by TBP
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The fbi murdered innocent people. It is a corrupt organization.


2 posted on 08/25/2022 9:53:39 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Damn it! We need Trump! America First! Bring America back! We're being governed by fascists.)
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Bovard was on top of this mess in the 90s while most folks were sleeping. His books “Freedom in Chains: The Rise of the State and the Demise of the Citizen”, “Lost Rights: The Destruction of American Liberty”, and “The Fair Trade Fraud” predicted the present.


3 posted on 08/25/2022 9:58:27 AM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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Correct.


4 posted on 08/25/2022 9:59:00 AM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chanece favors the prepared mind.)
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To: I want the USA back

Top to bottom.


5 posted on 08/25/2022 10:06:56 AM PDT by Ken H (Trump /DeSantis)
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His Cabin wasn’t “isolated”. Many of us live in areas called remote because access is by gravel or dirt road. Look at Boundary County Idaho road maps, and you’ll see that there is a good percentage of the county roads here are gravel. There is lots of discrepancies in articles to justify a wrong, and portray him as a terrorist.


6 posted on 08/25/2022 10:07:02 AM PDT by davidb56
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The FIB’s reputation went up in smoke along with the Branch Davidians including a couple dozen children in Waco, TX.


7 posted on 08/25/2022 10:08:11 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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"The men and women of the FBI,” Attorney General Merrick Garland Sean Hannity proclaimed, “are dedicated, patriotic public servants.”
8 posted on 08/25/2022 10:10:22 AM PDT by Ken H (Trump /DeSantis)
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James didn't mention[I wonder why] that it was William Barr as the AG during the Weaver raid. Who would later be Trump's pick as AG. Certainly a laugh at the face of people who wanted less deep state and more Constitution.
9 posted on 08/25/2022 10:14:54 AM PDT by Theoria
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Everyone also forgets the FBI lab scandal of the 1990s where lab tests were falsified and innocent people went to jail.


10 posted on 08/25/2022 10:28:52 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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The Ruby Ridge murders pinpoint the exact date that the FBI became a criminal organization.


11 posted on 08/25/2022 10:31:35 AM PDT by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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While these reminders of events in the past are greeted with approval from many conservatives, the truth is that most of the country doesn’t remember them at all except for the narrative sold to the public that all the Ruby Ridge and Branch Davidian deaths were justified because they were armed terrorists.

Merely having arms brand you in any conflict with the government, much less firing back in defense of your life.


12 posted on 08/25/2022 10:41:54 AM PDT by wildbill (The older I get, the less the term 'life in prison" scares me)
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FBI == Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organization


13 posted on 08/25/2022 10:43:16 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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The Ruby Ridge murders pinpoint the exact date that the FBI became a criminal organization.

Hardly.

It just pinpoints the incident in which they were caught with sufficient publicity to catch public attention.

14 posted on 08/25/2022 10:46:31 AM PDT by marktwain
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Don’t forget it has proven itself capable of framing people it knows to be innocent... see Richard Jewell for an example of that.


15 posted on 08/25/2022 10:54:44 AM PDT by Boogieman
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The Bundy ranch standoff with BLM (Bureau of Land Managment) was bad optics for gov but they got revenge by assassinating LeVoy Fincum.
16 posted on 08/25/2022 11:11:45 AM PDT by existtoexcel
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“Don’t forget it has proven itself capable of framing people it knows to be innocent... see Richard Jewell for an example of that.”

The FBI went out of their way to frame Richard Jewell all the while protecting Eric Rudolph.


17 posted on 08/25/2022 11:49:11 AM PDT by Round Earther
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To: miserare

Day of formation.


18 posted on 08/25/2022 12:39:13 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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Remember WACO.


19 posted on 08/25/2022 12:42:24 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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Looks like they finally raided Mar-a-lago correctly this time.

20 posted on 08/25/2022 1:00:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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