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The mainline Protestantism clown show
The Spectator (UK) ^ | June 23, 2022 | Grayson Quay

Posted on 06/23/2022 4:19:14 PM PDT by Salman

Just when I thought woke, mainline American Protestantism couldn’t descend any further into self-parody, the liberal Evangelical Lutheran Church in America went and surprised me.

Here’s a summary, courtesy of Dr. Jordan B. Cooper, a pastor in one of the conservative rump denominations that didn’t join the ELCA:

Neurodivergent nonbinary trans pastor is made bishop. This individual then disciplines abusive latinxpastor. But this is unknowingly done on a Hispanic holiday and is thus racist. Woman archbishop rebukes bishop but isn’t harsh enough so is then also racist.

Wait, what?

It all started when Bishop Megan Rohrer of the ELCA’s Sierra Pacific Synod fired a pastor named Nelson Rabell-González who appears to have two passions in life: the Black Lives Matter movement and verbally abusing people.

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Here’s the thing: Lutherans don’t celebrate the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe. That’s a Catholic thing. The Marian apparitions the feast commemorates happened eleven years after the pope excommunicated Martin Luther. Apparently, Rabell-González’s church was planning to mark the occasion in some way, but this strikes me as a weirdly condescending bit of syncretism. A Hispanic Lutheran celebrating the Guadalupe apparitions makes about as much sense as an Arabic Catholic celebrating Ramadan.

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(Excerpt) Read more at spectatorworld.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: elca; elcaishopeless; enablingillegals; evanuthcommies; homosexualagenda; lutherancommies; prolife
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1 posted on 06/23/2022 4:19:14 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

Who says these fakes are “mainline”?


2 posted on 06/23/2022 4:20:48 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Salman

Cooper doesn’t belong to a “rump organization.” He belongs to the LCMS, which is much older and thus the mainline Lutheran Church. The ECLA, etc., are the rebellious spinoffs of mainline churches, not the other way around.


3 posted on 06/23/2022 4:24:12 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Salman

“Neurodivergent nonbinary trans”

I have a new way to ‘present’ myself and my preferred pronoun is FJB.


4 posted on 06/23/2022 4:27:14 PM PDT by dynachrome (“We cannot save Ukraine by dooming the US economy.” Rand Paul)
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To: Seruzawa

At well less than 1% of the population, the ELCA is rapidly devolving into splinter group status. The Mainline, a historic group of protestant churches, are all rapidly dwindling and dying on the vine; mostly because once they abandoned the Law and perverted the Gospel, the Holy Spirit got His hat and blew the apostate pop stands.


5 posted on 06/23/2022 4:33:13 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Salman

Protestants have their embrassassments too.

We just don’t put them in silly hats and bend to kiss their rings.


6 posted on 06/23/2022 4:44:46 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: Seruzawa
Who says these fakes are “mainline”?

Historically they were. No so much now.

7 posted on 06/23/2022 4:48:48 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...


Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Be rooted in Christ!

8 posted on 06/23/2022 5:44:56 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Salman

Who says these fakes are “mainline”?

Historically, they were. No so much now.


We know this retired pastor from a mainline church.

Now, he often conducts funeral services in basically closed churches due to lack of active members.

When he first retired about a decade ago, he conducted monthly services or every two months in basically closed churches. Now, those churches can barely have a funeral service.


9 posted on 06/23/2022 5:58:04 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has anyone, recently, seen a Biden sticker on any vehicle and in particular at/in a gas station!!!)
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To: RedMonqey
Protestants have their embrassassments too. We just don’t put them in silly hats and bend to kiss their rings.

Of course no religion thread is complete without a bit of good old fashioned anti-Catholic bigotry, no matter how unrelated to the topic it may be.

10 posted on 06/23/2022 6:12:01 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversaet! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia! )
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To: fidelis

Yup, happens every time.

And I was just thinking this might be a thread to show how apostate all the big “Protestant” (non-Catholic, non-Orthodox) churches are, at least in America.

I’m basically Lutheran, and yes I have a good deal of Catholic appreciation (some upbringing, mother’s devotions). I’ve been seen as a Catholic apologist here but, it’s true - almost always the vitriol is against Catholicism and if not, it was usually started by the anti-Catholic.


11 posted on 06/23/2022 7:09:01 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVds)
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To: Salman

Wish I could read without “signing up”.


12 posted on 06/23/2022 7:09:27 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVds)
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To: dynachrome

Neuroproblematic crazy lesbian!


13 posted on 06/23/2022 7:16:52 PM PDT by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: fidelis

...and always from the usual suspects.

However, I agree that the red Prada slippers were too much.


14 posted on 06/23/2022 7:24:58 PM PDT by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: RedMonqey
Protestants have their embrassassments too.

We just don’t put them in silly hats and bend to kiss their rings.


Well, actually, Lutherans do. At least the hats.

15 posted on 06/23/2022 7:56:44 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: Dr. Sivana

You’re right of course but I was thinking of the embarrassment of the Jimmy Saggarts or Jimmy Bakker types.


16 posted on 06/23/2022 8:08:33 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: fidelis

My comment was ecumenical.


17 posted on 06/23/2022 8:12:06 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: Dr. Sivana; lightman

Those people aren’t Lutherans.


18 posted on 06/24/2022 3:14:13 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is NOT a religion of any sort. It is a violent and tyrannical system of ruling others.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Those people aren’t Lutherans.

I got the screen shot under the UK Lutherans Home Page. They may not be Missouri Synod, or Wisconsin Synod, but I think they are in fact Lutheran Bishops wearing funny hats. Maybe it's a UK thing.

19 posted on 06/24/2022 3:30:47 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: Dr. Sivana

If you called a dog’s tail a leg, would every dog then have 5 legs?


20 posted on 06/24/2022 3:39:53 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is NOT a religion of any sort. It is a violent and tyrannical system of ruling others.)
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