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Biden Pushes Forward with Plan to Put 30% of U.S. Land Off Limits, Including Private Property
Brietbart ^ | 09/22/2021 | Penny Starr

Posted on 09/22/2021 11:16:57 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: sevinufnine
As a landowner whose property (200+ acres) boarders nat’l forest on 2 sides, far as I know you’ve never been allowed to cut down trees on nat’l forest land.

You've always been allowed to purchase a very inexpensive permit for your own firewood or Christmas tree harvesting on national forest lands. Not so with national parks, but forests are fine. You just can't sell it under those permits. Otherwise that would be commercial use and would require a whole lot more paperwork.

21 posted on 09/22/2021 11:54:55 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“You’ll own nothing, and you will be happy!”

The Great Reset


22 posted on 09/22/2021 11:58:36 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: sevinufnine

This is a direct quote from the US Forest Service web page:

“The National Forests were originally envisioned as working forests with multiple objectives: to improve and protect the forest, to secure favorable watershed conditions, and to furnish a continuous supply of timber for the use of citizens of the United States.”

https://www.fs.fed.us/forestmanagement/aboutus/index.shtml


23 posted on 09/22/2021 12:04:46 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Welcome to the Soviet Union.


24 posted on 09/22/2021 12:10:38 PM PDT by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: sevinufnine

Here is the entire ABOUT US:

“The overriding objective of the Forest Service’s forest management program is to ensure that the National Forests are managed in an ecologically sustainable manner. The National Forests were originally envisioned as working forests with multiple objectives: to improve and protect the forest, to secure favorable watershed conditions, and to furnish a continuous supply of timber for the use of citizens of the United States. Forest management objectives have since expanded and evolved to include ecological restoration and protection, research and product development, fire hazard reduction, and the maintenance of healthy forests. Guided by law, regulation, and agency policy, Forest Service forest managers use timber sales, as well as other vegetation management techniques such as prescribed fire, to achieve these objectives. These activities have captured substantial public attention, and in some cases, become hotly debated issues.”


25 posted on 09/22/2021 12:10:55 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: DannyTN

They own 52% of Oregon and 80% of NV.


26 posted on 09/22/2021 12:11:26 PM PDT by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: sevinufnine; woodbutcher1963
Try Googling on something to the effect of Timber Sales - National Forest Service.
27 posted on 09/22/2021 12:34:01 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: vpintheak

I get tired of typing this word: Unconstitutional.


28 posted on 09/22/2021 12:35:13 PM PDT by themidnightskulker (And then the thread dies... peacefully, in it's sleep....)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

One huge goal of the left is to eliminate private property. (See the communist manifesto). They do it a little at a time, and never actually admit that this is what they are doing.


29 posted on 09/22/2021 12:42:28 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Dethrone the ruling elite. Redistribute their wealth. Take away their power. Annul their privileges.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

I have been a lumber broker since 1985.
I have a BS degree in Wood Products Engineering
I buy from sawmills throughout the western US and Canada.
I am very familiar with US Forest Service Timber sales.


30 posted on 09/22/2021 12:49:06 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Biden puppeteers see this as assets to act as collateral for the massive debt they are creating.


31 posted on 09/22/2021 12:49:29 PM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: Huskrrrr
Gun confiscation is next.

And, after that, the government storm troopers can treat us the way that the Aussies are being treated for protesting mandated vaccines. They pepper sprayed an 80 yo woman.

32 posted on 09/22/2021 1:00:26 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Renfrew
Abolishing ranching land is one step of that plan.

I read about Bill Gates buying up a lot of land a few weeks ago. I wondered why he was doing it, it was big swathes of "ranch" land. Well, he is a vegetarian or a vegan or something, so I guess he thinks he can make the rest of us behave the same if he gets rid of the grazing land for the beef cattle.

Can't say positively that, that is what he is doing; but, why else would a computer geek start buying up beg swathes of land in the West?

33 posted on 09/22/2021 1:03:51 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: AU72

If they pass it, then make it equitable. 30% of NY, Pa, Ma, Ct, Ca, RI, Md, etc. and anything over 30% in other states given back to the states. It would go nowhere because it would highlight the scam.


34 posted on 09/22/2021 1:23:04 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: Renfrew

Yes, this has been on the left’s agenda for at least a decade.
About 20 years ago, property rights groups tried to sound the alarm about the Wildlands Project and Agenda 21.
They were ridiculed as conspiracy theorists by the media.


35 posted on 09/22/2021 1:49:52 PM PDT by chronicles
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To: sevinufnine

You can generally get woodcutting permits for many Nat’l Forests, it’s the parks and preserves that are generally off limits.


36 posted on 09/22/2021 2:41:45 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: themidnightskulker

Seems like CONgress, both sides, are ceding their power and letting the tyrant, tyrant. Then when they act, it’s just as bad. The USA is screwed. Seriously.


37 posted on 09/22/2021 3:05:05 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: woodbutcher1963

I figured as much.


38 posted on 09/22/2021 3:16:19 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: DannyTN

I heard from a lawyer several decades ago that the details of federal land ownership, given the constitutional limits placed on it, are such that they actually lease it from the states. Don’t know if this is completely true or only for the part of Colorado we were discussing at the time. Never had the urge to investigate. FWIW.


39 posted on 09/22/2021 4:09:30 PM PDT by curious7
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40 posted on 09/22/2021 4:43:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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