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My take away of this is that the Army, a subsidiary of the US Government, is saying that if you are commanded by police officers to do something, you do not have to comply.

A new precedent has been set.

1 posted on 04/13/2021 5:39:11 AM PDT by CodeJockey
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No new precedent has been set.
You want proof try disobeying a police officer next time the police stop your car.


2 posted on 04/13/2021 5:44:26 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Agree, between this guy, BLM and antifa the police are effectively neutered. That may have even uglier unintended consequences.


3 posted on 04/13/2021 5:45:18 AM PDT by CheneyClone
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The cop will rue the day he decided to pull over somebody for a chicken-shit offense that had not even been committed.


4 posted on 04/13/2021 5:46:51 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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This will translate into Army SJWs questioning orders from their superiors eventually...maybe in battle.

Let’s see how proud the Sergeant Major is of them then...


5 posted on 04/13/2021 5:49:04 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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Mkay.


6 posted on 04/13/2021 5:51:19 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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My understanding is that the guy had a loaded pistol on the passenger seat.

Is obeying law enforcement officers not required by blacks now?
7 posted on 04/13/2021 5:51:55 AM PDT by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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“My take away of this is ...”

Mine is that we’ll never see a full analysis of what happened because there are certain things you don’t say these days if you want to keep your career.

So the Sergeant Major is proud of the guy’s professional behavior. How professional is it to go a mile with blue lights on your tail and not get out of your vehicle when ordered to?

The officer didn’t act perfectly either.


8 posted on 04/13/2021 5:54:48 AM PDT by cymbeline
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Hindsight being 20/20, one question or issue brought up to Lt Sh*t For Brains and, of course, the SMA......

How do you react when someone you give a lawful order to, doesn’t comply with that order?

Q: So Sergeant Major, when you give an order to one of the E4s that work for you and it isn’t obeyed, are you proud of them?


10 posted on 04/13/2021 5:56:27 AM PDT by qaz123
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Was a lot of nonsense talk on here the other day that his commanding officer would either chew him out, publicly bash him, or throw him out of the army over this.


15 posted on 04/13/2021 5:58:02 AM PDT by Shadylake
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The previous two days thread's on this were much nastier. Come on Freepers, you can do so here too.
18 posted on 04/13/2021 5:58:27 AM PDT by ASA Vet (The first two boxes failed. Only one remains.)
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It seems the Sargent Major isn’t any smarter than the Butter Bar, both are a disgrace to the uniform I wore proudly.


19 posted on 04/13/2021 5:59:21 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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Wow.

This is bizarro world.

Do not comply with police, if you are military. Just like China CCP.

21 posted on 04/13/2021 6:01:00 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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Good lord, people - read between the lines. The SGM is trying to ‘head em off at the pass’.

SGM’s do NOT ‘speak’ to officers or officer issues, they ‘speak’ for and TO the enlisted ranks. This is trying to head off the counter-reaction from enlisted ranks to civilian police.

More than a few civilian police departments in areas near military posts are well known for targeting enlisted soldiers unfairly. Little town on east gate of Ft Riley has been notorious for decades for this.


24 posted on 04/13/2021 6:03:04 AM PDT by larrytown (The Second Amendment says NOTHING about hunting. Or pie. I like pie.)
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So in Biden’s Army resisting a lawful order to exit one’s vehicle represents a “calm, professional response to the situation”. Good to know.


28 posted on 04/13/2021 6:06:37 AM PDT by nagant
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The lieutenant has shown an inability or unwillingness to follow simple orders. He's also out of regs with that facial hair. Apparently he had a handgun but no holster to carry it in.

Seems about right for an "Army of One".

34 posted on 04/13/2021 6:12:15 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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The Sergeant Major should have kept his nose out of it. A very bad precedent.


37 posted on 04/13/2021 6:18:01 AM PDT by Enten (I don't have islamophobia...I do have islamonausea)
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Is there ANY doubt the US military has become as political as the FBI?

I HATE what is happening, and I’m a 25 year vet. Newsmax showed some of the otherwise unseen video last night, to include the idiot refusing to get out because “I don’t have to” and complaining how, as a serviceman, he was too special to obey a cop.

AND that he was concealing a gun on his person, while in uniform. In my day, concealed weapons were not allowed in uniform! Or out of uniform, if I’m on base. That part is still true. Don’t like it, but it is true.


45 posted on 04/13/2021 6:28:37 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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I was moderately on the soldier's side until I watched a video uploaded by a Freeper yesterday (sorry...don't remember who). I changed my mind. The soldier was a jerk and, while the officers were jerks also (especially Gutierrez...the fired one), the entire thing could've been over in two minutes if the soldier had cooperated...even after the 100 second "evasion run".

The person hosting this review of the actions that night is an ex-cop. It's a split-screen with four videos on the monitor simultaneously..including the soldier's camera that was recording the entire time!. It shows the soldier willfully being obstinate and disobeying the officer's orders. To me, the soldier videoing the incident tells me he wanted his SJW 15 minutes of fame.

The soldier should not be celebrated as a hero.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VgBMnJyOiT0&pp=QACIAgE%3D

65 posted on 04/13/2021 6:49:38 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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I’m starting to see a pattern, certain people are argumentative, don’t adhere to LEO directives, run, fight, etc. Then sh*t happens and it’s ALWAYS the officers fault. They call it, policing while White.


91 posted on 04/13/2021 7:35:07 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Screw you! Those cops were out of control and they needlessly made what could have been a polite traffic stop into a career ending event because of “Muh Authritah!!!”.


94 posted on 04/13/2021 7:57:55 AM PDT by MercyFlush (Senator Joseph McCarthy was right. )
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