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US Appeals court rules Americans don’t have right to open carry guns in public
americanmilitarynews.com ^ | March 24, 2021 | RYAN MORGAN

Posted on 03/24/2021 1:44:38 PM PDT by PROCON

On Wednesday, an en banc panel of the US Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit ruled that the second amendment right to keep and bear arms does not citizens include the right to carry a firearm, either openly or concealed, in public .

The court issued the ruling in the case of George Young Jr. V Hawaii, a lawsuit challenging a Hawaii firearm licensing law, which states residents seeking license to openly carry a firearm in public must demonstrate “the urgency or the need” to carry a firearm, must be of good moral character, and must be “engaged in the protection of life and property.” The court said, “There is no right to carry arms openly in public; nor is any such right within the scope of the Second Amendment.”

The majority opinion also states “we can find no general right to carry arms into the public square for self-defense.” The majority further argued that the second amendment applies to the “defense of hearth and home” and “the power of the government to regulate carrying arms in the public square does not infringe in any way on the right of an individual to defend his home or business.”

The majority ruled opinion covers Hawaii’s law regarding open carrying a firearm and the court further states, “We have previously held that individuals do not have a Second Amendment right to carry concealed weapons in public” meaning they believe no right to carry a firearm in any capacity in public exists.

Four judges dissented from the majority decision in two different dissenting opinions. In one of the dissenting opinions, three judges argued, “The majority’s suggestion that the values of federalism somehow preclude the Second Amendment from guaranteeing an individual right to carry arms for self-defense in the public square is fundamentally misguided” adding, “Hawaii’s severe deprivation of the core right to carry a firearm in public can only be understood as amounting to a total destruction of such right.”

Responding to the decision, the National Rifle Association tweeted, “BREAKING: The US Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit just ruled that THERE IS NO RIGHT TO CARRY – either openly or concealed in public. This ruling impacts RTC laws in AK, HI, CA, AZ, OR, WA, & MT. This was not an NRA case but we are exploring all options to rectify this.”

The appeals court’s en banc decision could be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, though the Supreme Court has not heard a second amendment case in more than ten years. In April of 2020, the Supreme Court declined to hear a case regarding a rescinded New York City rule that prohibited residents from transporting firearms to shooting ranges, competitions and even their secondary residences outside of the city.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; 9thcircuit; 9thcircus; banglist; concealcarry; digitalgulag; hawaii; opencarry; rkba
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To: PROCON
The majority further argued that the second amendment applies to the “defense of hearth and home”

That's not what my copy of the Constitution says.

21 posted on 03/24/2021 1:57:00 PM PDT by dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPC8zB-JPSg)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

There is no little by little.

HR-1 is the whole ball game. If the democrats get that through there are no more meaningful elections. We are living in a single party, totalitarian state run by lunatic, and morons. Any gun stuff right now is a smoke screen.


22 posted on 03/24/2021 1:57:03 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Hillary Clinton =The Pig In A Pantsuit (The PIAPS))
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To: PROCON

“The majority further argued that the second amendment applies to the “defense of hearth and home”

Why no, that is only one component. It was mainly meant to create an army of ordinary citizens, ready to form up and fight when they hear that a standing army from a centralized state...like a self selecting bureaucracy...is marching towards them to deprive them of their right to life, liberty and property.

Kind of like when Governor Tryon marched on a band of yeoman farmers in Western North Carolina back in 1770. They lost the Battle of Alamance, but eventually, everyone else picked up on the idea and that was the end of the British Crown in the Colonies.

They called them the Regulators.

Don’t tell any of the aliens on the 9th, undoubtedly they’re unaware of American history. Except maybe the dolt from Bozeman, who should know better. Maybe if he looked at the old pictures of Montana...all those guys with pistols in holsters might surprise him.


23 posted on 03/24/2021 1:57:08 PM PDT by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: PROCON

Supreme Court Chief Jester John Roberts will do as his masters command.


24 posted on 03/24/2021 1:57:10 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: PROCON

Then what the hell does “bear arms” mean???


25 posted on 03/24/2021 1:57:14 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: PROCON

Someone please point out to me where the Bill of Rights informs us of what citizens are permitted to do. Not there, is it. Those amendments including the second are concerned with what government shall not do. So you would certainly not expect to find whether one is allowed to carry a gun outside the home. Permission is not the point of the Second, restraining the government from taking away natural God given rights of self defense and protection of property is.


26 posted on 03/24/2021 1:57:27 PM PDT by lastchance
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To: PROCON

This is just the beginning of the end.

I just purchased a HK P-30 ver 3 with 7 17rd mags and a Sig P365 with 6 12rd mags

I’m still looking for a FNX 9mm.


28 posted on 03/24/2021 1:59:15 PM PDT by thegagline
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To: Sarah Barracuda

>>then there wont be anymore guns which is their end game

You mean except for all their bodyguards and taxpayer-paid security - you can be sure they will be well protected.


29 posted on 03/24/2021 1:59:31 PM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: PROCON

So... if I understand what they are saying correctly... the right to “keep and bear arms” doesn’t include bearing arms.

Did I miss something?


30 posted on 03/24/2021 1:59:38 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: PROCON

Fooking wrong

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed...


31 posted on 03/24/2021 1:59:42 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: PROCON
aw_jeez
32 posted on 03/24/2021 2:00:12 PM PDT by Augie
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To: taxcontrol

None so blind as those that refuse to see.
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Same can be said for those who refuse to see that one is not naturally a citizen when born with multiple nationalities.


33 posted on 03/24/2021 2:00:37 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Vendome

Yep. The Bill of Rights is not an ancient form of “Mother May I?”


34 posted on 03/24/2021 2:00:56 PM PDT by lastchance
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To: A Voice

“Noticeably absent is the right to protect one’s self in the public square.

What part of “Shall Not Infringe” is being misunderstood?”

I have what I believe to be an accurate reproduction of the Constitution, and mine seems to state that also.


35 posted on 03/24/2021 2:01:24 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: PROCON
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and BEAR Arms shall not be infringed.

36 posted on 03/24/2021 2:01:28 PM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: BrexitBen

I thought the Ninth was now flipped with the appointments under President Trump.


37 posted on 03/24/2021 2:02:20 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: HotHunt

Oh please. You know ‘what happened’ to the NRA.


38 posted on 03/24/2021 2:02:22 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: PROCON

It does not say you can’t.


39 posted on 03/24/2021 2:02:42 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Remember Ashli Babbitt!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Texas et al filing.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/Young%20v%20Hawaii%20FINAL.pdf


40 posted on 03/24/2021 2:04:35 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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