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US Appeals court rules Americans don’t have right to open carry guns in public
americanmilitarynews.com ^ | March 24, 2021 | RYAN MORGAN

Posted on 03/24/2021 1:44:38 PM PDT by PROCON

On Wednesday, an en banc panel of the US Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit ruled that the second amendment right to keep and bear arms does not citizens include the right to carry a firearm, either openly or concealed, in public .

The court issued the ruling in the case of George Young Jr. V Hawaii, a lawsuit challenging a Hawaii firearm licensing law, which states residents seeking license to openly carry a firearm in public must demonstrate “the urgency or the need” to carry a firearm, must be of good moral character, and must be “engaged in the protection of life and property.” The court said, “There is no right to carry arms openly in public; nor is any such right within the scope of the Second Amendment.”

The majority opinion also states “we can find no general right to carry arms into the public square for self-defense.” The majority further argued that the second amendment applies to the “defense of hearth and home” and “the power of the government to regulate carrying arms in the public square does not infringe in any way on the right of an individual to defend his home or business.”

The majority ruled opinion covers Hawaii’s law regarding open carrying a firearm and the court further states, “We have previously held that individuals do not have a Second Amendment right to carry concealed weapons in public” meaning they believe no right to carry a firearm in any capacity in public exists.

Four judges dissented from the majority decision in two different dissenting opinions. In one of the dissenting opinions, three judges argued, “The majority’s suggestion that the values of federalism somehow preclude the Second Amendment from guaranteeing an individual right to carry arms for self-defense in the public square is fundamentally misguided” adding, “Hawaii’s severe deprivation of the core right to carry a firearm in public can only be understood as amounting to a total destruction of such right.”

Responding to the decision, the National Rifle Association tweeted, “BREAKING: The US Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit just ruled that THERE IS NO RIGHT TO CARRY – either openly or concealed in public. This ruling impacts RTC laws in AK, HI, CA, AZ, OR, WA, & MT. This was not an NRA case but we are exploring all options to rectify this.”

The appeals court’s en banc decision could be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, though the Supreme Court has not heard a second amendment case in more than ten years. In April of 2020, the Supreme Court declined to hear a case regarding a rescinded New York City rule that prohibited residents from transporting firearms to shooting ranges, competitions and even their secondary residences outside of the city.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; 9thcircuit; 9thcircus; banglist; concealcarry; digitalgulag; hawaii; opencarry; rkba
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1 posted on 03/24/2021 1:44:38 PM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 03/24/2021 1:45:16 PM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: PROCON

The Ninth Circuit is all the explanation anyone needs.


3 posted on 03/24/2021 1:46:43 PM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: PROCON

No surprise here. What would you expect from the 9th Circuit Court?


4 posted on 03/24/2021 1:47:16 PM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: PROCON
It's almost a good sign when the most overruled circuit in America votes against gun rights.

Of course, I should add that the judges in the majority should be hanged.

5 posted on 03/24/2021 1:47:33 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: PROCON

Oh the 9th circus. In the past I would have said overturned in 3,...2,... but with the current SCOTUS I ain’t so sure.


6 posted on 03/24/2021 1:47:37 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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To: BrexitBen

I thought Mitch FIXED the 9th circuit, I guess NOT!!


7 posted on 03/24/2021 1:48:11 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: snoringbear
[What would you expect from the 9th Circuit Court?]

This. When the anti-gun members arrive in the morning.


8 posted on 03/24/2021 1:49:57 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: PROCON

Will the fearful SCOTUS take this appeal ?


9 posted on 03/24/2021 1:50:32 PM PDT by Sonshinegirl
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Yeah, Mitch fixed it alright.

Just like he fixed the Supreme Court with the last two “ strict constitutionalists “.


10 posted on 03/24/2021 1:52:40 PM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: PROCON

What the left wants, is little by little your 2nd Amendment rights to be taken away til there is NONE left..first the AR-15, then conceal carry, then the handgun, then there wont be anymore guns which is their end game


11 posted on 03/24/2021 1:54:30 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: PROCON

Shades of Dred Scott.


12 posted on 03/24/2021 1:54:47 PM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: PROCON

How do you “open carry a gun?


13 posted on 03/24/2021 1:55:09 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: PROCON

Hmmm, “to keep and bear arms”

Keep is synonymous with own and posses
Bear is synonymous with carry

So this phrase could be substituted as “...to own and carry arms”

Merriam Webster dictionary literally has a sub section for “bear arms” and the first sub definition is “: to carry or possess arms”

Non so blind as those that refuse to see.


14 posted on 03/24/2021 1:55:11 PM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: PROCON

The right to “keep and bear arms” does not cover a right to bear arms?


15 posted on 03/24/2021 1:55:21 PM PDT by Pollster1 (America is no longer in Claire Wolfe's "awkward stage")
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To: PROCON

I am certainly not nearly as well-educated as the esteemed members of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, but what does the word ‘bear’ mean in the phrase ‘keep and bear’ arms?

And wherever did they get the idea that the “...second amendment applies to the “defense of hearth and home”? I thought it was there to prevent tyrannical governments, since the Founders had just lived through such an experience.

But if, as they say, the second amendment does apply to defense of hearth and home, why do citizens of Hawaii and California require their state’s permission to exercise the right?


16 posted on 03/24/2021 1:55:41 PM PDT by hanamizu
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Where is the NRA lately? They have disappeared. They are the biggest supporters and lobbyists for the 2nd Amendment and yet they are silent.

Anyone know what's up with the NRA? They didn't go "woke" I hope.

17 posted on 03/24/2021 1:56:06 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: PROCON

Off to the SCOTUS then.


18 posted on 03/24/2021 1:56:16 PM PDT by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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To: PROCON

My State’s Article 16 - ‘That the people have the right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State’.

No mention of home, business or in public. This has meant, for nearly 240 years, exactly what it says.

No group of brain-dead, black-bedecked tyrants are going to change it - we simply will not comply and any equally simple-minded LE bully supporting this will be eternally sorry for doing so.


19 posted on 03/24/2021 1:56:47 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: PROCON

“The majority further argued that the second amendment applies to the “defense of hearth and home....”

Noticeably absent is the right to protect one’s self in the public square.

What part of “Shall Not Infringe” is being misunderstood?


20 posted on 03/24/2021 1:56:48 PM PDT by A Voice (As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the end times.)
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