Posted on 02/24/2021 4:00:28 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The Great Bend-Hallstead exit (230) off Interstate 81 in Susquehanna County is due for repair in the next few years and PennDOT has proposed installing an electronic toll, that would use E-ZPass or pay-by-plate collection for drivers who pass through the area. The funds collected would be used to pay for the construction, maintenance, and operation of that bridge.
We spoke with several people who use this section of highway about the proposed idea.
"I guess to raise taxes to everybody is really hard, so I guess for the people using the road, then maybe that's a good idea," said Gwen Chianese of Susquehanna.
"I'm opposed to it, and I think it's just another means of taxing, and I just don't think it's necessary," said Tony from New Milford.
Mike Ryder from Great Bend says his household will end up paying more.
"My fiancé, she works at the hospital so five days a week she's working and that's going to add up right there," said Ryder.
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
Exactly, We own a Summer Home in Susquehanna County and the taxes we pay to the town/county have been sent to Harrisburg for the past few years to pay for Tom Wolf’s “projects” leaving our roads in deplorable condition. I never thought I would buy all my gas in NY but it is cheaper!
It sounded to me like they would simply place a gantry at one end of each bridge.
Then why do the say “... would use E-ZPass or pay-by-plate collection for drivers who pass through the area.” That is not the same as tolls on a bridge.
Are you promising that the government isn’t going to use tolls all over the place now that they can send a bill to anyone? You’re crazy!
You stated...”Nobody in PA stood up against the voter fraud”..
That’s a flat out lie!
The advantage of tolling a major highway is that it carries a lot of traffic and it serves a lot of motorists who may not pay any other taxes in the state but use the roads.
Put a toll collection system on a local road and you would have a hard time collecting enough revenue to even pay the cost of setting the system up and operating it.
1. The highway system is very old ... among the oldest in the country, in fact.
2. PennDOT is responsible for an enormous network of roads, including many that wouldn’t be under state jurisdiction in most states. The state road system in PA includes a lot of secondary roads and arterials that would be county or local roads in any other state.
3. Harsh weather conditions make road maintenance in Pennsylvania inordinately expensive. There are no towering mountains in PA, but most of the state is comprised of a series of ridges and the Allegheny highlands. Combined with the state’s location in the Northeast in the Great Lakes snow belt, this makes snow plowing a major expense item in the PennDOT budget.
4. Outside the largest metro areas, much of Pennsylvania has been experiencing a long-term decline in population and industry. So even with the highest fuel taxes in the nation, most state roads don’t serve enough users to generate the fuel tax revenue needed to keep the roads in a state of good repair.
Its a tax and it will never go away. In fact it will just go higher. People will start avoiding the toll. They will move to the side they work on. House values will change. People will use side routes through neighborhoods to avoid the tolls.
A new bureaucracy will grow up around the tolls. There will be people who live on the toll income. And they will add tolls every time a bridge or a pot hole comes about.
In the end, there will still be more expenses than income. And the tolls will change behavior to the extent that the highway will have less traffic around the tolls. That will cause the tolls to go higher. If you are wealthy or in a hurry, your highway will always be clear. And you will spend money fixing and widening those routes around the tolls. That is my experience in Dallas, Denver, and Chicago.
I can see that. Xiden’s commie handlers would love to get your EZ-Pass records.
That’s kind of sad. I thought New York had the worst roads.
they are capturing licence plate numbers, no need for EZ-Pass information - they need to explain away cameras systems to be in use.
Its a tax and it will never go away. In fact it will just go higher. People will start avoiding the toll. They will move to the side they work on. House values will change. People will use side routes through neighborhoods to avoid the tolls.
A new bureaucracy will grow up around the tolls. There will be people who live on the toll income. And they will add tolls every time a bridge or a pot hole comes about.
In the end, there will still be more expenses than income. And the tolls will change behavior to the extent that the highway will have less traffic around the tolls. That will cause the tolls to go higher. If you are wealthy or in a hurry, your highway will always be clear. And you will spend money fixing and widening those routes around the tolls. That is my experience in Dallas, Denver, and Chicago.
BS, they have gas taxes for roads and bridges and they move that to their welfare accounts and then bond for improvements. Lucy, where's that football.
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