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To: grundle

Hoping there is more to the story- I don’t approve of theft but you can’t shoot someone for simply stealing. You have to believe your life is in danger.


3 posted on 02/16/2021 9:48:17 PM PST by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: Persevero

I suspect there’s repeated thefts and threats involved.


5 posted on 02/16/2021 9:50:54 PM PST by Skywise
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To: Persevero

This is what non-lethal devices are made for. Rubber bullets or rock salt is what would be best if you have to shoot to protect your property.


7 posted on 02/16/2021 9:54:14 PM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Persevero

You are wrong. And how are you supposed to know if a criminal will stop at theft? Ask them nicely? “Hey thief, you’re just gonna take that, then leave us alone, right?”
All thieves are shot on sight. Period.


11 posted on 02/16/2021 9:56:19 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: Persevero
The Media has been dumping gas on this dumpster fire.

They're just as responsible as the KKK burning crosses on lawns back in the day.

12 posted on 02/16/2021 9:56:41 PM PST by kiryandil (New Movie: The Assassination Of Ashli Babbitt By The Anonymous Coward)
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To: Persevero

Oh I see. Your supposed to let them steal your car, your tools, your TV, your money, everything, and just sit there and let them have at it.

Eff that, they come on my property to do that and..they are D-E-A-D.


19 posted on 02/16/2021 10:16:44 PM PST by crz
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To: Persevero

In TEXAS You can, it’s called The Castle Doctrine. You have total domain over Your property AND even protect Your neighbors property.


20 posted on 02/16/2021 10:17:39 PM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: Persevero

Not in Louisiana


27 posted on 02/16/2021 10:41:57 PM PST by robowombat (Orthodox )
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To: Persevero

I guess it’s a “sign” of the times. The days of neighbors inviting one over for a chat and coffee these days are gone.


30 posted on 02/16/2021 10:52:13 PM PST by OKITRUMP77
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To: Persevero

Well, it says they were called over a fight. So, while the fight may have started over a sign, stealing the sign Was not the cause of the shooting. It was because of the fight. How bad the fight was, they did not say.


45 posted on 02/17/2021 12:16:43 AM PST by HollyB
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To: Persevero; All

Here’s the Details:

Texas Penal Code Sec. 9.32 (a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:
(1) if the actor would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and (2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to protect the actor against the other’s use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or (B) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery. (b) The actor’s belief under Subsection (a)(2) that the deadly force was immediately necessary as described by that subdivision is presumed to be reasonable if the actor: (1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the deadly force was used: (A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor’s occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; (B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor’s habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or (C) was committing or attempting to commit an offense described by Subsection (a)(2)(B); (2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and (3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used. (c) A person who has a right to be present at the location where the deadly force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the deadly force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the deadly force is used is not required to retreat before using deadly force as described by this section. (d) For purposes of Subsection (a)(2), in determining whether an actor described by Subsection (c) reasonably believed that the use of deadly force was necessary, a finder of fact may not consider whether the actor failed to retreat.


47 posted on 02/17/2021 12:29:43 AM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: Persevero

Depends on the state and time of day.

In Houston, a guy opened up from a second story balcony with an AK bc someone was stealing his rims at night.

No charges. Three dead.


61 posted on 02/17/2021 2:45:43 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Persevero
Depends on the state, and having had a scumbag/junkie and Police incident myself while stationed at Ft Lewis I can say she is screwed.

She should have lived in Texas, where Criminal Mischief after the hours of darkness justifies Deadly Force. Deadly Force is also justified to stop or prevent a Felony from occurring.

Granted, the community and DA will determine outcome. Austin/Dallas/Houston you'll probably be charged in a lot of cases. My hometown the police might comment on your shot grouping and hurt your feelings.

I held two poachers at gunpoint until Sheriff's Deputies arrived several years ago. One Deputy, which I knew, asked me why didn't I shoot them.

69 posted on 02/17/2021 4:15:24 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: Persevero
I don’t approve of theft but you can’t shoot someone for simply stealing.

When did it happen that a thief was granted a greater right to your property than you have to his life?

ML/NJ

86 posted on 02/17/2021 5:29:17 AM PST by ml/nj (DITCH MITCH !)
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To: Persevero

Yeh! Let the Rat police handle it.


96 posted on 02/17/2021 7:59:43 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Persevero

NOT just theft...TRESPASSING also.

Come onto MY property & you WILL FACE the consequences.


104 posted on 02/17/2021 9:02:04 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: Persevero
Hoping there is more to the story- I don’t approve of theft but you can’t shoot someone for simply stealing. You have to believe your life is in danger.

Depends upon where you live. If it's after dusk, and before dawn in Texas, you most certainly can.

105 posted on 02/17/2021 9:04:58 AM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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