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Scenario to Portray Risk Assessment and Coronavirus Infection (VANITY)
1/30/2021 | Myself

Posted on 01/30/2021 8:00:00 AM PST by rlmorel

This is a fictional scenario base on real COVID-9 numbers. It is an attempt to portray the real risk.

COVID-19 is not a hoax, it is real. It is deadly to some people, and not as deadly to others. Anyone who says COVID-19 is not real cannot be taken seriously.

That said, there is much to disagree with on the handling of this pandemic, and I have disagreed with the fundamental premise and handling if it since April 2020. Up to that point, I was keeping an open mind on it, since there was much that was not known. But in April 2020 there was an understanding of what it was, how dangerous it was, and who was most at risk.

I have never maintained that government has no role in these things. Of course they do. My point is that government's role in THIS, a pathogen that has a relatively small mortality rate disproportionally weighted towards the elderly, was completely mishandled, and done so deliberately for political reasons, in my opinion. There is a political party that hates to see a good crisis go to waste. (Their words, not mine)

My greatest disagreement has been with the lockdowns, closing of businesses, places of worship, and government mandated limits on freedom including the forced (governmental and social forced) wearing of masks.

I equally condemn the lack of a Value Assessment done on human life, and the cogent risk analysis to give this pandemic context.

And if it sounds cruel to say "Value Assessment done on human life"...it isn't. We do value assessments ALL THE TIME on human life, usually our own. We do it in as mundane a thing as driving in a car or riding a bike, and also make those decisions in not taking up skydiving or rock climbing. As Conservatives, we believe that decision SHOULD be left to the individuals who is best justified to make them, and that is ourselves.

This is not the Bubonic Plague in the Middle Ages, in which perhaps 40-60% of the people. who contracted it died, nothing was known about how to prevent or cure it. COVID-19 is different. If you contract it in the USA, it is only about a two in 100 chance overall that you may die from COVID-19. That sounds great if you are buying a ticket to perhaps win new car or house in a lottery, but not great if one of those two tickets gets your neck into a hangman's noose.

Envision this scenario:



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I concocted the fictional scenario above using rough numbers, the known fatality rate for COVID-19 in the USA is roughly 2% overall as used in the scenario above. 25 million cases have been confirmed out of 330 million Americans, as reported by the CDC. (though that scenario could be in truth, far higher or far lower, I simply don't trust the testing process at all)

I believe that people who are not of sound mind, infirm, or unable to protect themselves should be protected by the actions of government or institutions.

And most of all, people who are of sound mind should have been able to make decisions for themselves, not being forced at the point of a government gun to comply.

People who are at risk should have been allowed to protect themselves as they see fit. Or, if they are young, not protect themselves if they wish. It should have been our choice.

However, this government at all levels has taken actions that have put millions of people out of work, shuttered tens or hundreds of thousands of businesses, destroyed an economy, ruined life savings, and subjected people to a variety of things ranging from drug addition to mental health and suicide.

This is not to mention the impact on the future generations of debt from trillions of dollars of wasted money and the impact to children on the deterioration of their overall education and eventual workforce skills.

On top of all this, it was used to deliberately sabotage the electoral process, and that was no accident.

We do not know what the long term effects are going to be. But It isn't good no matter how you view it.

And it was all done on the basis of fear and misinformation.

1 posted on 01/30/2021 8:00:00 AM PST by rlmorel
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To: xrmusn; Owen; Guenevere; qaz123; gas_dr
I thought some of you might be interested in a thread I started this morning:

Scenario to Portray Risk Assessment and Coronavirus Infection (VANITY)

Just an attempt to provide perspective on this.

2 posted on 01/30/2021 8:08:16 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: rlmorel
a pathogen that has a relatively small mortality rate disproportionally weighted towards the elderly, was completely mishandled, and done so deliberately for political reasons

In other words, to scuttle DJT's presidency and reelection. Nuff said, case closed. I know it, you know it, the entire world ought to know it.

3 posted on 01/30/2021 8:09:16 AM PST by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: CodeJockey

Yes. My “Gee, this just happened in an election year” Coincidence-O-Meter just went off the scale.


4 posted on 01/30/2021 8:17:52 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: CodeJockey
... to scuttle DJT's presidency and reelection ...

Not only that, but to delibrately plunge the US irretrievably into debt, ruin the economy and make millions of people perpetually dependent on the government. Specifically the Democrat party, whose politicians specialize in creating crises and presenting themselves as the solution.

In other words, to set themselves up to be in power forever.

5 posted on 01/30/2021 8:22:16 AM PST by GenXFreedomFighter
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To: rlmorel

In France 80% of those hospitalized for covid19 are over 65 years old. Those dying are disproportionately even older. This thing is a nightmare if you are over 80, but then what isn’t? By the time you get in your 80’s the flu and pneumonia are both very deadly. If you are 30 getting in an Ubber and going downtown after dark is probably more dangerous than covid19.


6 posted on 01/30/2021 8:25:16 AM PST by your other brother
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To: rlmorel

“Scenario to Portray Risk Assessment and Coronavirus Infection (VANITY)”

Hilarious, because what is going on right now is total fiction

Now I’ll go read your hypothesis...


7 posted on 01/30/2021 8:46:01 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: rlmorel
Good write up. I knew this COVID-19 “pandemic” was a political hoax in mid-February 2020 when those 2 cruise ships were stuck in the pacific. They were a perfect microcosm for understanding the virus; young, adult, elderly, all cloistered together in a Petrie dish where the virus could have its way.

What was the result? A couple 90 year olds dead, a few 80 year olds really sick, and most experiencing headaches.
8 posted on 01/30/2021 9:47:50 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Vendome

Well, there is risk, no doubt. But that actual risk largely depends on who you are, that is true.


9 posted on 01/30/2021 9:48:34 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: your other brother
"...If you are 30 getting in an Uber and going downtown after dark is probably more dangerous than covid19..."

Agreed.

10 posted on 01/30/2021 9:50:21 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: rlmorel

It’s always, “We’re from the government and we’re here to help.”
Sorry if I don’t trust anything the government tells me.


11 posted on 01/30/2021 9:55:40 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Neither safety nor security exists in nature. Everything is dangerous and has risk.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

It is a medical issue for those at elevated risk, that is without question. For the majority of people it is a sickness like a lot of other sicknesses.

I take great issue with how it was fostered and utilized politically. It makes me angry, deeply angry.


12 posted on 01/30/2021 10:01:18 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: BuffaloJack

It isn’t just that they lie. They have always done that.

The problem is that now, they are openly using the organs of the state(and collaborating with Big Tech and the Media) to punish political enemies. President Trump and General Flynn were object examples, and now they come for the rest of us.


13 posted on 01/30/2021 10:04:22 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: All

Numbers of use:

Ages of deaths from the virus, just for the elderly:

45-54 16,760
55-64 42,031
65-74 76,404
75-84 99,393
85+ 115,680

The 85+ people (at 85 you have 6 years of life expectancy) are most at risk, but it’s not overwhelming.
65+ is the big jump. For 65+, the 85+ group is only 40% of the 65+ total. Most of that 65+ total are under 85.

Of all age groups, all the way down to babies, 80% who die are 65+, which means 20% are under 65. 20% of 450K is non trivial body count.


14 posted on 01/30/2021 10:48:58 AM PST by Owen
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To: rlmorel

The Great Reset!


15 posted on 01/30/2021 11:07:31 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; rlmorel; rktman
(from the article) :" However, If you are one of those 8.3% of people in their town of 100,000 (8300 people) who get their ticket seized by the mysterious executioner, that doesn't mean you get executed.
What they do is throw all those seized tickets into a big glass bowl, where 2% (166 people) of those seized tickets are drawn out.
166 doomed people are drawn who will be sent to an executioner."

"To make this drawing fair, they select one citizen at random each day to reach into that giant glass bowl and draw out 166 tickets.
They call you, and you have to go perform the task, no questions asked.
Your phone rings, the government says you have to go and draw the tickets out that day, so you do."

"Therefore, the end result is that out of a town of 100,000 people, 166 people would end up with with their tickets in the hands of the the government executioner. "

My comment : This sounds like the series :" The Hunger Games" ,
or even worse, .. much worse, :
the movie "Soylent Green".

16 posted on 01/30/2021 1:16:01 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: CodeJockey

‘In other words, to scuttle DJT’s presidency and reelection.’

which explains perfectly why Great Britain is locking down harder than ever now, nearly three months after the election...you could toss parts of Australia in there too...


17 posted on 01/30/2021 1:37:55 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: your other brother

” If you are 30 getting in an Ubber and going downtown after dark is probably more dangerous than covid19.”

Proably is not the correct word at this time.

If you are well enough to party until 2am downtown, your not going to be killed by covid 19. The younger deaths are highly tied to the same old comorbidities that the flu has. The flu went through chicago club in the 1993-1995 timeframe. The operator of one of the clubs who I knew before he hit it big, one weekend declared on his empty floor in Feb... “what the fuck happened, half my staff are not here and we have 12 customers” Turns out nobody was feeling up to waiting in line for the bathroom for about 5 days, then everything returned to nomal the next weekend. He being about 10 years older had had whatever went around and never being sidelined. Me I lost 6 lbs over the next week.

That thursday - sat crowd could be keeping half of the chicago bars alive at this point. But the young ones no longer work in the towers, and sit in Naperville and Arora on the UTubes.

The cities are dead... they just do not know it yet.


18 posted on 01/30/2021 2:03:58 PM PST by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: IrishBrigade

Solent Green cures starvation. If the liver juices of old people cured covid, the press would be in favor of the meat grinder and doctor death.

Everyone over 65 should be isolated, but those are the loud mouth Baby Boomers that have been ruining everything for 40+ years.


19 posted on 01/30/2021 2:08:09 PM PST by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: rlmorel

btt


20 posted on 01/30/2021 4:55:42 PM PST by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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