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Federal judge upholds California ban on carrying guns in public
AP ^ | Sept. 1, 2020 | AP

Posted on 09/02/2020 8:13:29 AM PDT by PROCON

SACRAMENTO — A U.S. judge on Monday upheld California’s near-total ban on carrying guns in public even as protests in other states have seen counter-demonstrators armed with weapons.

U.S. District Judge Kimberly Mueller denied a review of a 2017 federal appeals court decision that upheld the law, which bans carrying concealed weapons in most urban areas and permits open-carry of weapons only if someone believes that a person is in immediate danger and law enforcement has failed to respond, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; banglist; california; opencarry
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An 11-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is scheduled on Sept. 24 to consider a challenge to the law, which effectively only permits police and security guards to openly carry firearms. Any ruling is at least several months away but it would be binding in nine states, including California. (WA, OR, MT, NV, AK, ID, AZ, HI)
1 posted on 09/02/2020 8:13:29 AM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 09/02/2020 8:14:17 AM PDT by PROCON (MOLON LABE)
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To: PROCON

Sounds kinda, I don’t know, all infringee and stuff.


3 posted on 09/02/2020 8:15:09 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: PROCON

U.S. District Judge Kimberly Mueller denied a review of a 2017 federal appeals court decision that upheld the law, which bans carrying concealed weapons in most urban areas and permits open-carry of weapons only if someone believes that a person is in immediate danger and law enforcement has failed to respond, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.


So, Kyle would have been fine under this law. Cool. :)


4 posted on 09/02/2020 8:16:28 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: PROCON

I looked it up. Kimmy Mueller was appointed by Obama. Nothing more needs to be said.


5 posted on 09/02/2020 8:16:36 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: PROCON

An armed society is a polite society. If this thing holds, a few places are gonna get a lot less polite.


6 posted on 09/02/2020 8:17:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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fer sure... i will allow the state to have a preferrence, like we prefer you to open carry, but how will we know if you are concealed carrying...

how did we get here... oh, we let them.


7 posted on 09/02/2020 8:17:41 AM PDT by teeman8r
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To: PROCON

BLM is proud to announce our new spinoff organization Cracker Mobs Matter! With CMM you can rest assured that we stand with the safety of those exercising their fundamental human right to burn down your black neighborhood without fear of reprisal from Uncle Toms or others who might resist them. Yes, CMM is a new mostly peaceful quality organization from the people who brought you mostly still standing cities!


8 posted on 09/02/2020 8:19:12 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: PROCON

If you’re in ‘immediate danger’ do you have to tell the attacker ‘hang on a minute... let me wait to see if law enforcement is gonna respond’ before you’re good with this ruling?


9 posted on 09/02/2020 8:19:54 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: PROCON
Osama Obama appointee. A woman so bereft of intelligence that “shall not be infringed” mystifies her.
10 posted on 09/02/2020 8:19:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: teeman8r

Open carry should be and is legal..but I find open carry a bit vulgar. It freaks people out and lacks discretion. I find conceal a better option IMHO.


11 posted on 09/02/2020 8:22:44 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: PROCON

Surely BLM and Antifa will obey. Or they may just show up at the judges house. Would be a shame.


12 posted on 09/02/2020 8:24:19 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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“...other states have seen counter-demonstrators armed with weapons.”

So, AP never saw all the gun-toting BLM and antifa demonstrators carrying, aiming at bystanders and passing cars, shooting in the air?

Enemedia at work. Our MSM are now blatant Domestic Enemies, Enemies Within, Enemies of America.

They must be stopped.


13 posted on 09/02/2020 8:27:56 AM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: PROCON

This ruling infringes our right to BEAR arms as perotecred by the 2ndA and incorporated against the States by SCOTUS in McDonald vs Chicago 2010.

We don’t require the states permission to exercise our right. I hope this can be appealed.


14 posted on 09/02/2020 8:28:35 AM PDT by nonsporting (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: PROCON

I guess that part about ‘bearing arms’ got edited out the constitution because one judge says so.


15 posted on 09/02/2020 8:36:34 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Leaning Right

We have the beloved Gipper to thank for the original law when he was Gobernador.


16 posted on 09/02/2020 8:40:13 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: teeman8r

how did we get here... oh, we let them.


This is why I moved from Seattle to rural KY in 2011. My vote didn’t count, and way back then I decided that if the body was going to commit suicide I needed to find a different body.


17 posted on 09/02/2020 8:46:41 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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Open carry should be and is legal..but I find open carry a bit vulgar. It freaks people out and lacks discretion. I find conceal a better option IMHO.

There is nothing vulgar about open carry. If someone is freaked out by it, they're the one with a problem and they should seek help. There are people freaked out about people wearing a MAGA hat. Again, their problem, not the wearer's problem. There are people freaked out about others eating meat. Does that mean we should stop eating meat in restaurants? I'm not going to change my lifestyle to suit some sensitive snowflake's feelings.

18 posted on 09/02/2020 8:46:56 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: PROCON

Why would the court’s ruling on a CA law be binding in those other states?

Maybe only if they pass a law similar to CA’a law being ruled on?

Meanwhile, the original Mercury News article is not totally correct in their wordings of current CA law. So don’t come to any conclusions from their article.

Problem is that most people (cops included) do not know current CA gun law. Gun law changes continually, is written confusingly, is interpreted liberally, is applied capriciously, and is confused with everyday speech terms by normal citizens.

Oh I hope I did not offend any citizens; hard to find a normal citizen in CA.

Most every gun owner has a different interpretation of CA gun law, especially when new laws are proposed or reviewed like this one. So I stay under the radar and wait, and don’t assume anything.

However, know that CA Dem legislators are working hard to ‘eliminate the loopholes’ in current law. Might as well define each gun and ammo as a “Loophole”, and eliminate that! That is their unimpeded goal.


19 posted on 09/02/2020 8:53:27 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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This is a very misleading article, from the AP as usual, as she did not uphold the law, she denied a review. In other words, she didn’t do anything, she passed the buck to a case in Hawaii and wouldn’t work the case in California. So, she didn’t uphold anything but invited further court cases already on the dockets. Lies, lies, lies...

rwood


20 posted on 09/02/2020 8:58:38 AM PDT by Redwood71
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