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An 11-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is scheduled on Sept. 24 to consider a challenge to the law, which effectively only permits police and security guards to openly carry firearms. Any ruling is at least several months away but it would be binding in nine states, including California. (WA, OR, MT, NV, AK, ID, AZ, HI)
1 posted on 09/02/2020 8:13:29 AM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 09/02/2020 8:14:17 AM PDT by PROCON (MOLON LABE)
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Sounds kinda, I don’t know, all infringee and stuff.


3 posted on 09/02/2020 8:15:09 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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U.S. District Judge Kimberly Mueller denied a review of a 2017 federal appeals court decision that upheld the law, which bans carrying concealed weapons in most urban areas and permits open-carry of weapons only if someone believes that a person is in immediate danger and law enforcement has failed to respond, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.


So, Kyle would have been fine under this law. Cool. :)


4 posted on 09/02/2020 8:16:28 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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I looked it up. Kimmy Mueller was appointed by Obama. Nothing more needs to be said.


5 posted on 09/02/2020 8:16:36 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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An armed society is a polite society. If this thing holds, a few places are gonna get a lot less polite.


6 posted on 09/02/2020 8:17:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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BLM is proud to announce our new spinoff organization Cracker Mobs Matter! With CMM you can rest assured that we stand with the safety of those exercising their fundamental human right to burn down your black neighborhood without fear of reprisal from Uncle Toms or others who might resist them. Yes, CMM is a new mostly peaceful quality organization from the people who brought you mostly still standing cities!


8 posted on 09/02/2020 8:19:12 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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If you’re in ‘immediate danger’ do you have to tell the attacker ‘hang on a minute... let me wait to see if law enforcement is gonna respond’ before you’re good with this ruling?


9 posted on 09/02/2020 8:19:54 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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Osama Obama appointee. A woman so bereft of intelligence that “shall not be infringed” mystifies her.
10 posted on 09/02/2020 8:19:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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Surely BLM and Antifa will obey. Or they may just show up at the judges house. Would be a shame.


12 posted on 09/02/2020 8:24:19 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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“...other states have seen counter-demonstrators armed with weapons.”

So, AP never saw all the gun-toting BLM and antifa demonstrators carrying, aiming at bystanders and passing cars, shooting in the air?

Enemedia at work. Our MSM are now blatant Domestic Enemies, Enemies Within, Enemies of America.

They must be stopped.


13 posted on 09/02/2020 8:27:56 AM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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This ruling infringes our right to BEAR arms as perotecred by the 2ndA and incorporated against the States by SCOTUS in McDonald vs Chicago 2010.

We don’t require the states permission to exercise our right. I hope this can be appealed.


14 posted on 09/02/2020 8:28:35 AM PDT by nonsporting (Aim small, miss small.)
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Why would the court’s ruling on a CA law be binding in those other states?

Maybe only if they pass a law similar to CA’a law being ruled on?

Meanwhile, the original Mercury News article is not totally correct in their wordings of current CA law. So don’t come to any conclusions from their article.

Problem is that most people (cops included) do not know current CA gun law. Gun law changes continually, is written confusingly, is interpreted liberally, is applied capriciously, and is confused with everyday speech terms by normal citizens.

Oh I hope I did not offend any citizens; hard to find a normal citizen in CA.

Most every gun owner has a different interpretation of CA gun law, especially when new laws are proposed or reviewed like this one. So I stay under the radar and wait, and don’t assume anything.

However, know that CA Dem legislators are working hard to ‘eliminate the loopholes’ in current law. Might as well define each gun and ammo as a “Loophole”, and eliminate that! That is their unimpeded goal.


19 posted on 09/02/2020 8:53:27 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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This is a very misleading article, from the AP as usual, as she did not uphold the law, she denied a review. In other words, she didn’t do anything, she passed the buck to a case in Hawaii and wouldn’t work the case in California. So, she didn’t uphold anything but invited further court cases already on the dockets. Lies, lies, lies...

rwood


20 posted on 09/02/2020 8:58:38 AM PDT by Redwood71
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I ear arms because it is part of my Religious faith and belief that I must do so, in order to stand approved before my Maker, and this position is supported by the enshrinement of this right to bear arms, as specified within the United States Constitution.

Death Traitors!


22 posted on 09/02/2020 9:40:42 AM PDT by semaj (Death to Traitors!)
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“Bear” is not just a furry critter in the woods.


23 posted on 09/02/2020 9:43:42 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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Congress to the rescue (yeah, right) of pro-2nd Amendment (2A) patriots in California (CA)! /sarc

Patriots are reminded that the states have given Congress the express 14th Amendment (14A) power to make penal laws that discourage state actors from abridging constitutionally enumerated rights, 1st and 2nd Amendment protections in this example.

From the 14th Amendment:

In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 above, had included 2A when he read the Bill of Rights as main examples of constitutionally enumerated protections that 14A applies to the states.

John Bingham, Congressional Globe. (See 2nd Amendment (Article II) about in middle of 2nd column.)

H O W E V E R…

We are still stuck with a worthless, corrupt Congress left over from the lawless Obama Administration that will predictably munch popcorn while watching CNN show reluctant CA law enforcement officers arresting Californians for bearing their firearms, violating their 1st and 2nd Amendment-protected rights by doing so imo.

The remedy for constitutionally failed federal and state governments…

Send "Orange Man Bad" federal and state government desperate Democrats home in November!

Supporting pro-2A PDJT with a new patriot Congress and state government leaders that will promise to fully support his already excellent work for MAGA and stopping SARS-CoV-2 will effectively give fast-working Trump a "third term" in office imo.

Also regarding 14A:


24 posted on 09/02/2020 9:44:28 AM PDT by Amendment10
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... the law, which bans carrying concealed weapons in most urban areas and permits open-carry of weapons only if someone believes that a person is in immediate danger and law enforcement has failed to respond..

Which seems to be the case at every democrat sponsored riot, doesn’t it?


25 posted on 09/02/2020 9:50:47 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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28 posted on 09/02/2020 1:38:59 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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open-carry of weapons only if someone believes that a person is in immediate danger and law enforcement has failed to respond, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

And of course everyone knows well in advance and with 100% accuracy when these conditions apply and cannot be second-guessed by prosecutors months later. Ahem.

31 posted on 09/02/2020 4:20:54 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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